Sept 15th Townhall
09-16-2020, 12:05 PM
#71
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
22 months assuming no improvement what so ever. I'm positive the business plan accounts for a return of revenue or... bankruptcy. In either case I'd prefer the PWA remain in tack until the result.
09-16-2020, 12:36 PM
#73
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Originally Posted by 1Bob
I guess you were one of the three junior pilots supporting some type of retirement restoration for the DeadZoners too?
09-16-2020, 12:55 PM
#74
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To summarize then, in general, most people are comfortable with the position that the company's current strategy is to outlast the pandemic and to potentially cash in on pent up demands. Times have changed from 2001. Management has changed. Pension was a huge target back then. M&A was for the survival of the industry. What are the big targets now? What are the big questions we are not asking? Does it matter? Above my pay grade? Yes.
09-16-2020, 01:38 PM
#75
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
Losing $750mil a month? Not for long.
09-16-2020, 02:21 PM
#76
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Its likely that if they took the government loan they would not have secured the private 6 billion dollar loan they just got. Lenders look at things like debt when making loan decisions. The private loan has better terms.
09-16-2020, 02:26 PM
#78
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Originally Posted by XJ86
And here we go a prime example of someone who thinks it happened to me so its only fair it happens to you.... in case you haven't figured it out furloughs arent a right of passage, we all have been f'd by the industry more times then we can count. But IT HAS TO STOP SOMEWHERE WITH ONE GENERATION OF PILOTS
09-16-2020, 02:45 PM
#79
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Originally Posted by Rooster435
Was there any discussion about the AE. Specifically on the reinstatements. Headed to training in a few weeks and wondering if they are going to waste everyone’s time by training people twice.
09-16-2020, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by cessnapilot
i think the OP just poorly stated his thinking. Airlines have always hired until they furloughed. It’s simply tied to the business and the economy. It just isn’t possible for any pilot group to prevent a furlough when an airline is way over staffed. Airlines take such an opportunity to divide the pilot group and any cuts to save jobs become permanent. It’s nothing more than a degradation of the job you will come back to and ultimately have to live your life under.
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