I didn’t think they would change their mind on April SILs and then throw the pilot group under the bus. I lived that urban legend.

 

Sadly, I wasn't surprised at all. I DID think that they at least *could* do that, and of course they did. That remains a cosmically stupid decision. If nothing else they would have had good data and "metrics" for a company that supposedly loves them. But optics won over sensible decisions.

 

Our PWA language is full of holes. But, even good language doesn't seem to control behavior when the PWA bumps up against the business plan.

 

If you consider not offering SIL’s for sixty days which was a concession by the company for which we obtained contractual gains being thrown under the bus I hate to see what you might think if something truly terrible happens.
The company is a business, per the agreement signed they elected not to offer them as they felt in the end it would cost them more money in other areas. Their success in those areas was outstanding given the crises so hard to fault the results.

 

Mostly true, but if you need a reason why pretty much nothing has been agreed to since - there you have it. The company may have operated within the letter of the agreement but not the intent. So now you have the Pilot group galvanized like never before against management. That whole fiasco was a huge management blunder.

I can understand you logically defending many of the companies actions and sometimes I agree with you, and always appreciate your point of view, but I really can't believe you are on here defending the April re-bid bait and switch.

They reneged on the SILs after they rebid April. They achieved the benefit of their agreement and never delivered the payment. An honorable management team after receiving the benefit of the re-bid could have said well we don't like this but we will do it for two months since we committed to it. They were not forced into this offer - if they had any doubts about complying in good faith they should have never agreed to this deal in the first place. Total management fail! As a matter of fact the benefits of a unified Pilot group (think polling results) has probably resulted in a net gain to the Pilot group. Maybe we should thank Management for unifying the Pilots like DALPA never could.

Scoop

 

just so I understand what's going on here...

there's two deals that have been presented to the MEC. One has voluntary cost-saving measures. One has involuntary cost-saving measures. The voluntary deal has saved until 1/1/21 220 jobs, taking the furlough total down to 1721. If more people take that voluntary deal, we could see more jobs saved. The involuntary deal has to pass the MEC, then pass MEMRAT. This could potentially save all furloughees, but could also decimate the contract for months (years) to come.

Have I summed it up right?

 

That sums it up to the best of my understanding. Although, "decimate" seems like a strong word when we have absolutely zero details of what that deal may entail. Absent any details its best to assume that there is simply some give. How much give? We don't know that yet.

 

I think so with one caveat. I don't think the negotiating committee sent anything to the MEC that would decimate the contract, unless you mean the real definition of decimate (reduce by ten) not the new english definition where it became synonymous with annihilate. They want 15% avl cut, we want zero. Lets see if 7.5% is palitable.
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people may still vote no, but 15% is where negotiating started from.

 

Mostly, yes. To piggy back, the voluntary TA needs to be ratified in order to guarantee saving the 220. And then it could save more if folks volunteer to take advantage of it (high take rate). Hopefully we’ll know more this week.

 

okay, you're right. Decimate was a poor choice of words and I sincerely apologize for that. But listening to some people on FB, any concession means death. I get it - fool me once and all that.