Not really sure what you are referring to. IIRC the company tried to offer them at 40 hours instead of 55 and a few guys were outraged. OTOH we have a very small contingent of very vocal Pilots at DAL that seem to perceive everything as an outrage. No matter how loud they yell they are still a very small % of Delta Pilots.

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yes, announced on sky hub with JL and EB. 220 are safe, 1721 are delayed til Nov1 to try to get a deal done

Right out of Ed's mouth, 'We Can't afford to keep excess staff.' Unfortunately, for those in the crosshairs, excess staff is excess staff. Pay cuts or concessions don't magically deem you necessary. I wish I could trust this management team with a no furlough deal, I don't unfortunately. Cuts will stem the bleeding, but I don't think it's going to save any jobs.

they are keeping excess staff in every other department. If a no furlough deal is reached, I don’t think they will violate it just because

Kind of like how they honored their agreement back in April with the SIL's. Let's not pretend that they can't turn around and announce furloughs across other groups as well in the future. They have created an atmosphere of distrust.

I do enjoy my job with Delta and I especially like the pay and lifestyle it affords me. Financially and just overall career-wise I do not want to be furloughed. I don’t mean to come off as ungrateful for another month of employment.

However, why are we being strung along? At the end of the day I have to pay my bills. Just as the company isn’t interested in month to month SILs, I’m not interested in month to month “will I still get a paycheck”. I’m trying to arrange other work and luckily they’ve been incredibly understanding but I don’t know how far that patience will stretch.

Let’s get some adults on this. Enough of the BS. Make a decision. The only reason we’re now in the no time bucket is because the entire time we were in the time bucket nobody was at the controls and making decisions.

that LOA gave them the option to offer SILs, it did not require that they do so. A no furlough clause would not give them the option not to furlough, it would say they CANNOT furlough.

You are right they could still furlough non cons but the lead time required with WARN notices would suggest they have no plans to do so in the immediate future.

This right here. I want to see at least see what the union can negotiate for us. I suspect we could get some decent contract improvements that have little to no cost to the company while the flying is so low.

I feel the same way. The PWA essentially prohibits it, I would think we need at least 30 days notice for recall. I’m in an active flying category and now they get to just make up a reserve schedule for me, or tell me to WS whatever I can and get paid for what I can find?

I had plans for other employment, I don’t like getting 9 days notice and I certainly can’t push back the start of my new job more than once...

To me, the first appalling moment in this mess was not the reneging on the SILs (although that was the catalyst in unifying the pilots), but the fact that the union so easily folded when the company first asked for help.

The company had stonewalled us for nearly a year during section 6 negotiations, asking for arbitration early because they didn’t want to play with us anymore. They were literally (okay...figuratively) spitting in our faces the whole time. And then they come begging to rebid the April schedule and the MEC says “sure go ahead”. What we got in return is irrelevant. They MEC and NC absolutely folded at the first sign of turbulence after a year of being made to look like fools. My jaw dropped when they announced that deal. And this was before the company reneged on the SILs!