Abouttime2fish

LCA rumor says 1500 new hires need to be hired, trained, and ready for summer 2022. That’s on top of the affected group. My finger math says that hiring needs to start within next 2-3 months.

tennisguru

In other words, we're already hosed...

crewdawg

These things have a way of working themselves out. How that happens, well...we'll see. Buying more 737s and adding the 787 will really help that. See if you keep staying the rumor, it may just happen.

AlphaBeta

They are having trouble projecting out six months, there is no way this rumor has any validity. I wish it did, but I don’t see 2019 levels being hit for a few more years.

Eldee5

That’s what I used to think, but if you look at the bid results for dec, jan, and feb, there is a significant number of pilots either inactive or not flying. Again, this is not a rumor, but only my opinion. I feel like the company would be happy to invite a few to voluntarily retire early. Yes, I do believe that we will be short staffed in the near future, and that’s why the VEOP would only try to target those at the very top who are not flying. Just an opinion, I could most certainly be wrong.

i am more confident about the upcoming AEs rumor.

ppping

I have flown with a couple of senior pilots on the 73 that said they should have taken the VEOP and would if another one was offered. My opinion only some did not take it fearing bankruptcy etc. throw out another VEOP, see what takers you have them run some AEs to get the Manning correct (it’s what they should have done the first time TIC).

tcco94

and we were not staffed properly for 2019 levels either? Plus by summer of 2022 if you recall everyone and train us by then, we are still 20% smaller than 2019. So even if you don't assume those levels come back for a few years, we would need to hire by then or else we would be severely behind and playing catch up with 4-500 retiring a year for the next 10 years.

I don't know how to run an airline, but it just doesn't make sense to me. Watching us this holiday season and knowing next fall could have a lot more travel worries me if they plan on keeping me away from the line all year this year because we are not being proactive and prepping ourselves for a recovery. Sure a big chunk of us affected could be put in our old types but there's also a big chunk that I'm in that need a new type entirely and know it will be months from recall to being available on the line.... But hey, green slips galore for you guys. Everyday I'm wishing I was back.... Hope the rumors come true...

Imapilot2

I agree totally. However I have a lot of kids in a lot of sports teams at large schools ,. We have been around numerous parent conversations about how things have changed. The stuff there saying. How there never gonna just wait for one vacation a year gonna be taking multiple and we've actually had people call us trying to help them with tickets because they can't take anymore they just need to go somewhere. I do think it will be awhile before we exceed 2019 levels but I think it will freight train pass those numbers when it does.

Trip7

At this point the only sure thing is a staffing nightmare is coming. They'll eventually figure it out but we can do is sit back and watch with popcorn or fill out your desired slips.

I feel for the folks in Crew Resources and the Training department that burn up all these man hours for displacements then will have to rapidly reverse nearly all of it.

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theUpsideDown

Dont go forecasting the weather just yet. Lot of uncertainty remains for now.

Still, some hope is warranted i suppose.