5 year Market Outlook opinions
#131
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That's fair. I just think it is overrated, but I get it. I prefer to look at a dollar amount. But I guess when you boil it down you are still looking at a percentage. I just find it interesting that in all of these discussions, you see guys talk about percentage until they get to retirement and then that shifts to $X/month in income.
You an options trader?
You an options trader?
I get what you’re saying. But, for a “level playing field” %’s are best to work with. In this little wager between Trip and I, if I was working with a $100k account and he’s working with a $10mil account, the $ figures will be wildly skewed. So, like the rest of the financial industry, i find it best to deal in %. Like you said, it all boils down to %, but you can certainly have a $ amount for retirement in mind (I do).
I do trade options, quite a bit. But 95% of my PF is long term buy and hold.
#132
That's fair. I just think it is overrated, but I get it. I prefer to look at a dollar amount. But I guess when you boil it down you are still looking at a percentage. I just find it interesting that in all of these discussions, you see guys talk about percentage until they get to retirement and then that shifts to $X/month in income.
You an options trader?
You an options trader?
#133
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Trip7 I checked out sharesight, looks like a great tracker. I researched DWR vs what I use (IRR) and their methodology should work just fine. There will be a slight difference in performance readouts side IRR takes into account the TIMING of the cash inflows and outflows, but it should be minuscule.
I will start tracking my trades in June. For me, it will be my 401k and Roth contributions. I do not intend to use this sight to track my derivative trades (options, futures etc).
Best of luck, may we both be more wealthy at the end of this :-)
I will start tracking my trades in June. For me, it will be my 401k and Roth contributions. I do not intend to use this sight to track my derivative trades (options, futures etc).
Best of luck, may we both be more wealthy at the end of this :-)
#134
Trip7 I checked out sharesight, looks like a great tracker. I researched DWR vs what I use (IRR) and their methodology should work just fine. There will be a slight difference in performance readouts side IRR takes into account the TIMING of the cash inflows and outflows, but it should be minuscule.
I will start tracking my trades in June. For me, it will be my 401k and Roth contributions. I do not intend to use this sight to track my derivative trades (options, futures etc).
Best of luck, may we both be more wealthy at the end of this :-)
I will start tracking my trades in June. For me, it will be my 401k and Roth contributions. I do not intend to use this sight to track my derivative trades (options, futures etc).
Best of luck, may we both be more wealthy at the end of this :-)
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#135
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What do you think the average net worth is for a Delta pilot in his late 50s-early 60s?
#136
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The MMPI is supposed to weed out some variability, but there are guys making $400k+ that are broke and have massive debt, there are also pilots making $200k that are multi millionaires.
#137
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So the old trope of "including the great depression, the market goes up X% a year..." is technically true...as long as you potentially have 30-60 years to recover lost value to ride it out.
Yet the notion that "debt is good" because you can mortgage your entire existance to make more in the market persists.
Divorce and toy addictions (and vastly overspending on colleges LOL!) aren't the only reasons that our profession's financial security seems to be way more than it should be for our levels of earnings.
I don't claim to know, nor do I attempt to pimp, any particular investment stratedgy or formulaic "method". But if "the market" goes to any low amount, including zero (obviously not saying that will happen) I will have a place to live and can buy groceries. Letting it all ride at the casino with not only today's money but tomorrow's as well is just asinine to me.
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