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03-31-2021, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot

Never buy a Tesla thinking you are making a green choice. They are anything but green. Fast, nice for commuting, cheap when used for close in trips, but not green.

If you are comparing it to riding a bike, you are correct. Compared to an oil powered car they are MUCH more efficient, especially if you are powering them via efficient energy (renewable).

03-31-2021, 12:55 PM

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What happens when the Tesla batteries reach their end of useful life? How many years do they last? Can the batteries be safely recycled?

They were originally designed to last 300,000-500,000 miles. Latest is around 2,000,000 miles. Companies are working on recycling almost 100% of the used batteries...not sure what current recycling is doing.
https://electrek.co/2020/10/18/tesla...million-miles/

03-31-2021, 01:01 PM

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If you are comparing it to riding a bike, you are correct. Compared to an oil powered car they are MUCH more efficient, especially if you are powering them via efficient energy (renewable).

Thats the key to why EV’s are so vastly better for the environment. They need far less energy to travel. EV’s are 70% plus efficient verses 20% or so for ice vehicles. There is a reason why so many nations worldwide are pushing EV’s.

03-31-2021, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JurgenKlopp

I’m curious what is the percentage of own/lease amongst you Tesla drivers? Never leased a car before in my life, but with changing tech it can make a lot of sense with EV’s.

Tesla's are built for 300-500K miles before batter replacement. New info is showing 2,000,000 miles before replacement:
https://electrek.co/2020/10/18/tesla...million-miles/

03-31-2021, 01:12 PM

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I went on a fairly short road trip in a friend’s model 3 and the range was not good. A trip that you could normally do in 1 tank of gas ultimately took 3 pit stops (we weren’t able to start on a full charge due to a super charger station not working and having to charge overnight from a normal outlet). If I get a Tesla I would rent a gas car if I ever went on a road trip over 200 miles. Also not a good car to bring back country camping.

My brother has two spots for the new truck. Expected range is 550 miles. He said you can go into camping mode, in the desert, and set the temp for 72 degrees...should last about 2 weeks without recharging. Also, with the truck, the whole interior back to the tailgate is temp controlled with the bed cover extended (it has solar panels on it).

03-31-2021, 01:14 PM

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There are some trips that will not be convenient, but there are more chargers than you think, I would totally do a road trip anywhere in the US with my Model 3. Back-country is a little harder because areas with no services..well.. don't have any services.

abetterrouteplanner.com or plugshare make it easy to plan a route and find chargers. But an electric car isn't a gas car, there isn't a charging station on every corner. But there are still lots of chargers, and companies like EVGo and Electrify America are adding lots, in addition to Tesla's supercharger network.

On my sister's trip MN-OR-MN, she said there were supercharger stations about ever 60-80 miles...usually at a gas station or a location you can buy food at.

03-31-2021, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FangsF15

Been lurking this thread with genuine interest. But this... When Tesla makes a truck with a goose neck hitch that can pull my 10,000# horse trailer 500 miles without stopping for more than about 3 minutes on a hot day to freshen up water and fill up, then we can talk. Until then, I’ll keep my F350.

Online videos of a very niche but useless gee-wiz circumstance don’t compel me. Or any real trailer-towing truck owner I’ve ever met. It’s not just about starting from a stop. I’m sure Elon will figure all that out eventually, but the Cyber truck ain’t gonna be seen on any ranches anytime soon.

The X towing capacity is 5,000 lbs. the cybertruck, with the 3 motor, high end package ($95K will every option) will tow 14,000 lbs. Charging times, battery capacity, energy density, battery life, are all improving at high rates. Current tesla batteries should last for 2,000,000 miles:
https://electrek.co/2020/10/18/tesla...million-miles/

03-31-2021, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot

I don't travel in my electric, it adds way too much time to a road trip. For my typical truck use the lower range would not be a problem. The problem for me would be the price for the trucks. Seventy to eighty thousand to go to lowes and get a few pieces of lumber or some mulch or a trip to the landfill is out of bounds. For my trucks I am a wind down windows and rubber floor mat guy. Still pizzed you can't get a manual transmission any more.

I was just thinking: Someone should sell a Farm Truck. Simplified large pickup bare bones, like the F150 used to be. To get this now you have to buy an old farm truck, vs a new truck.

03-31-2021, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by waldo135

I don’t disagree with what you say. My point is, when the big power companies make it easier to get across the country, every car manufacturer will pump out EVs like crazy, and people will buy every one. Tesla can only make so many cars, and until the infrastructure is at least moving in the right direction, progress will be metered.

GM and Jaguar are planning on all electric production by about 2025...

03-31-2021, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by badflaps

With all this home charging going on, where will all the KWs come from?

Your solar/wind/geothermal/battery pack at your residence. With an electric car, and a smart grid, you will be able to sell your power from your car battery and make money. With a full self-driving Tesla you will be able to make money farming your car out as an auto-taxi will you are not driving the car.