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#183
You mean this video, where the F250 loses the first pull because he starts spinning....then wins the next two? "Spinnin' ain't winnin..."
Regardless, this is a pretty terrible example to demonstrate how a Tesla will outpull a Powerstroke F250.
Regardless, this is a pretty terrible example to demonstrate how a Tesla will outpull a Powerstroke F250.
To add to the (lack of) utility of electric for towing, and the deception of throwing out numbers, I guarantee with 1500# of weight to account for tongue weight it would have been 3 for 3 to the Diesel. Add to that the reduction in range that would absolutely accompany towing with electric... My gas milage drops by about 35-40% while towing, depending on weight, speed, and stop lights. Like I said, Elon with solve that, and when he does, I’ll be interested. Not holding my breath though.
I guess, like many things, street cred is different things to differ the people.
#184
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Thats why I didn’t post a link to it. I thought the same thing.
I am interested in the Rivian R1T. Only thing I tow is a boat or small trailer. I’d be interested to see how towing reduces the range.
#186
Lol, thanks for that. I have zero idea how range is affected in electric, but if it's anything like diesel, or even worse gas, it will be significant. Energy is energy. I haven't really paid much attention to charging stations. (Ironically, I did see a Tesla Supercharging station at a Sheets Gas station once). Will somewhat remote locations like camping sties or boat launches have charging available? As it catches on more, and it will, the infrastructure will built out. But at what pace? Having said that, I'll be Lake Lanier has a charging station near their swanky launches...
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Lol, thanks for that. I have zero idea how range is affected in electric, but if it's anything like diesel, or even worse gas, it will be significant. Energy is energy. I haven't really paid much attention to charging stations. (Ironically, I did see a Tesla Supercharging station at a Sheets Gas station once). Will somewhat remote locations like camping sties or boat launches have charging available? As it catches on more, and it will, the infrastructure will built out. But at what pace? Having said that, I'll be Lake Lanier has a charging station near their swanky launches...
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From what I’ve seen/read about Rivian, it looks like they are planning charging stations geared towards locations like you mention to augment growing national networks. I doubt I’d ever see a charging station at the boat launches I use. They’re mostly dirt ramps out in BFE.
Rivian's pretty. The one I was in had a Range Rover level gucci'd up interior. I am sure it will be a beast off-road. The wife will love it (and their SUV isn't getting much attention, but I'd bet it will be a huge seller) Their SUV is a much nicer vehicle than an Escalade, it handles better as well as being quieter and smoother than any Rolls. The CyberTruck is notable for what is IS NOT! It is NOT a decoration for the wifey to take to the high-end mall.
No paint = No Scratches. It is a real off road 4WD that you don't even have to think about off roading in the woods.
It has no frame
It has no transmission(s)
It has no differentials
It has no big lump of cast iron block, or heads, or radiators (in the traditional sense)
It has no transfer case, or driveshafts
The removal of all this stuff makes for not only A TON more room, it makes for a greater load carrying ability
Stainless = why not make it a tazer to vandals? Elon has observed Tasers are legal in all 50.
Building an exoskeleton of 3mm stainless is kinda the way they build airplanes to maximize interior volume. Can you imagine trying to build a widebody with tube and fabric? The inner frame is heavy and takes up space, as does the core support, fender aprons. Everything on a truck is carried, like a sack of potatoes on the frame. The pretty fenders and cabs and beds of trucks have outer "Class A" surfaces that are about 3/10's of a millimeter of metal, sometimes aluminum; not strong. The 3+ millimeters of the same proprietary steel used in Space X rockets (lowering production cost for rocket parts BTW) is bulletproof, as is the "metal-glass" which is a transparent aluminum material conjured up to stop commercial semis from getting rock chips and broken windshields on the freeway. These parts are planar because their toughness means that they cannot be bent and would destroy any die or stamping machine. The suspension mounting points, in the fully articulating air suspension (8+ inches of adjustment), are die cast using an 8,000 ton press (about the weight of a Navy amphib assault ship). The owner can tap the pneumatics, 110 and 220.
The design of the CyberTruck puts every part of the vehicle to work, structurally. The battery (unlike other Tesla) is cast into a honeycomb structure and becomes a panel. The concept is that every part is functional, not carried, not decoration. No silly grills, or 3 ft tall plastic--chrome Fender Emblems, none of that sans-a-belt white shoe stuff. When you can pull 15,000lbs and do 0 to 60 in < 2.9 no blue pills are required.
The CyberTruck completely dominates. Anything else (aside from Armored Personnel Carriers) will be less than. (<
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