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Old 03-19-2021 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JTwift
I have my Model 3 hooked up to a NEMA 14-50 plug. Same as a 4-prong clothes dryer. The car pulls 32A when charging, and it does about 30 miles per hour charge rate. Plenty fast enough to be ready the next morning.

I think people grossly overestimate what is actually going on with EV charging at home.

You can manually lower the amp draw if you want. You could also get a Tesla wall charger and have more control. Heck, you can get multiple wall chargers and they’ll automatically spread the charge load between cars.
I completely agree. In fact, I've been charging from a standard wall outlet using the included plug (~12A, 4 miles/hr) for years and never had a problem the next day. NEMA 14-50 is a nice luxury though, and it's also great for those who can't plug in regularly at home.
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Old 03-22-2021 | 05:54 AM
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I picked up a Tesla Model Y performance on Saturday. Fit and finish was surprisingly better than I expected. I have looked at Tesla’s for several months and fully expected to have a long list of problems needing to be fixed. A detailed inspection found two very minor issues I probably won’t bother addressing. The car was vastly better in fit and finish than the Ford Mach E I looked at recently but not as good as a recent BMW X5 purchase. Overall I was very happy. Had I not been happy I could have rejected the car and waited for another one.
The ordering and delivery experience were very good. I spent about 30 minutes online ordering car and filling out required documents. Be aware however that Tesla can be a bit deceptive on pricing. The first number they show online includes projected fuel savings. You need to click a box to get the actual vehicle price and they still omit the destination charge and taxes. You get a final price when you complete the order. Pickup was about 5 minutes total signing final paperwork. At a minimum however you need to watch a 3 minute video on basic operation before picking up the car as they offer no instruction. The day I picked up the car they were delivering 42 cars. On a slower day perhaps they may have offered more help. They have however very good online tutorials on every aspect of owning the car. I watched most of them and found the car surprisingly easy to operate.
The driving experience has been fantastic and no issues have showed up. Sunday I charged the car to 250 miles range or about 85% of battery capacity and went for a drive. Drove 115 miles mostly on back roads at speeds between 45 and 55 MPH with about 20 miles of interstate at 79 MPH. I arrived back home showing 138 miles of range left. I did not order the full self drive and doubt I will add it at 10K. The basic autopilot was just fine and performed very well. The BMW advanced driving assistant performs just as well and does offer automatic lane changes. I missed that feature on the Tesla. The Stereo is outstanding on the Tesla. Best factory system I have had in a car. Navigation and other features are also outstanding. Tesla really did a great job with the software integration and once you get the initial settings set to your liking the car is a breeze to drive. The phone as a key system is also outstanding and better than the BMW version. I am charging with a home J1772 non Tesla charger but the car came with a adaptor that works just fine.
Overall I am very pleased. The car is deceptively fast and handles well for a SUV. I hope I say the same 1,2,3 and 4 years from now. Time will tell.
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Old 03-22-2021 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I picked up a Tesla Model Y performance on Saturday. Fit and finish was surprisingly better than I expected. I have looked at Tesla’s for several months and fully expected to have a long list of problems needing to be fixed. A detailed inspection found two very minor issues I probably won’t bother addressing. The car was vastly better in fit and finish than the Ford Mach E I looked at recently but not as good as a recent BMW X5 purchase. Overall I was very happy. Had I not been happy I could have rejected the car and waited for another one.
The ordering and delivery experience were very good. I spent about 30 minutes online ordering car and filling out required documents. Be aware however that Tesla can be a bit deceptive on pricing. The first number they show online includes projected fuel savings. You need to click a box to get the actual vehicle price and they still omit the destination charge and taxes. You get a final price when you complete the order. Pickup was about 5 minutes total signing final paperwork. At a minimum however you need to watch a 3 minute video on basic operation before picking up the car as they offer no instruction. The day I picked up the car they were delivering 42 cars. On a slower day perhaps they may have offered more help. They have however very good online tutorials on every aspect of owning the car. I watched most of them and found the car surprisingly easy to operate.
The driving experience has been fantastic and no issues have showed up. Sunday I charged the car to 250 miles range or about 85% of battery capacity and went for a drive. Drove 115 miles mostly on back roads at speeds between 45 and 55 MPH with about 20 miles of interstate at 79 MPH. I arrived back home showing 138 miles of range left. I did not order the full self drive and doubt I will add it at 10K. The basic autopilot was just fine and performed very well. The BMW advanced driving assistant performs just as well and does offer automatic lane changes. I missed that feature on the Tesla. The Stereo is outstanding on the Tesla. Best factory system I have had in a car. Navigation and other features are also outstanding. Tesla really did a great job with the software integration and once you get the initial settings set to your liking the car is a breeze to drive. The phone as a key system is also outstanding and better than the BMW version. I am charging with a home J1772 non Tesla charger but the car came with a adaptor that works just fine.
Overall I am very pleased. The car is deceptively fast and handles well for a SUV. I hope I say the same 1,2,3 and 4 years from now. Time will tell.
Congrats on the purchase. I can tell you that in 2020 we purchased a civic and a Tesla. The Tesla purchasing process was by far the easiest car buying experience I’ve ever had. Particularly because there wasn’t the BS financing, $800 document fees, extended dealer warranty crap that you get hit with after coming to a purchase price.

I will agree that they don’t give much instruction for the differences compared to traditional vehicles. That being said we had test drives of different model Tesla’s and they were very helpful then.
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Old 03-22-2021 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Falcon20
Congrats on the purchase. I can tell you that in 2020 we purchased a civic and a Tesla. The Tesla purchasing process was by far the easiest car buying experience I’ve ever had. Particularly because there wasn’t the BS financing, $800 document fees, extended dealer warranty crap that you get hit with after coming to a purchase price.

I will agree that they don’t give much instruction for the differences compared to traditional vehicles. That being said we had test drives of different model Tesla’s and they were very helpful then.
You mean you don’t like the option to purchase a interior protection package, paint protection package, wheel and tire protection package, undercarriage protection package, anti theft window etching package, GPS tracking package, cargo netting package, prepaid maintenance package, tint package, pin stripe package, nitrogen tire package and the scent enhanced climate package for only 13,500 dollars if you bundle them together but if you don’t tell his manager and today only you can have it all for only a 99 dollar a month increase in your car payment?
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Old 03-22-2021 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
You mean you don’t like the option to purchase a interior protection package, paint protection package, wheel and tire protection package, undercarriage protection package, anti theft window etching package, GPS tracking package, cargo netting package, prepaid maintenance package, tint package, pin stripe package, nitrogen tire package and the scent enhanced climate package for only 13,500 dollars if you bundle them together but if you don’t tell his manager and today only you can have it all for only a 99 dollar a month increase in your car payment?
Well for that seems totally worth it then.
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Old 03-22-2021 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The driving experience has been fantastic and no issues have showed up. Sunday I charged the car to 250 miles range or about 85% of battery capacity and went for a drive. Drove 115 miles mostly on back roads at speeds between 45 and 55 MPH with about 20 miles of interstate at 79 MPH. I arrived back home showing 138 miles of range left.
250 - 115 = 135 which comes very close to the 138 miles remaining. It also means you drove the car like casual Sunday drive. Get your money's worth out of the "Performance" and bury your right foot in the potentiometer a little more. A few front row traffic lights next to an AMG, Porsche or M Series will encourage you to increase battery consumption.
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Old 03-22-2021 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I picked up a Tesla Model Y performance on Saturday. Fit and finish was surprisingly better than I expected. I have looked at Tesla’s for several months and fully expected to have a long list of problems needing to be fixed. A detailed inspection found two very minor issues I probably won’t bother addressing. The car was vastly better in fit and finish than the Ford Mach E I looked at recently but not as good as a recent BMW X5 purchase. Overall I was very happy. Had I not been happy I could have rejected the car and waited for another one.
The ordering and delivery experience were very good. I spent about 30 minutes online ordering car and filling out required documents. Be aware however that Tesla can be a bit deceptive on pricing. The first number they show online includes projected fuel savings. You need to click a box to get the actual vehicle price and they still omit the destination charge and taxes. You get a final price when you complete the order. Pickup was about 5 minutes total signing final paperwork. At a minimum however you need to watch a 3 minute video on basic operation before picking up the car as they offer no instruction. The day I picked up the car they were delivering 42 cars. On a slower day perhaps they may have offered more help. They have however very good online tutorials on every aspect of owning the car. I watched most of them and found the car surprisingly easy to operate.
The driving experience has been fantastic and no issues have showed up. Sunday I charged the car to 250 miles range or about 85% of battery capacity and went for a drive. Drove 115 miles mostly on back roads at speeds between 45 and 55 MPH with about 20 miles of interstate at 79 MPH. I arrived back home showing 138 miles of range left. I did not order the full self drive and doubt I will add it at 10K. The basic autopilot was just fine and performed very well. The BMW advanced driving assistant performs just as well and does offer automatic lane changes. I missed that feature on the Tesla. The Stereo is outstanding on the Tesla. Best factory system I have had in a car. Navigation and other features are also outstanding. Tesla really did a great job with the software integration and once you get the initial settings set to your liking the car is a breeze to drive. The phone as a key system is also outstanding and better than the BMW version. I am charging with a home J1772 non Tesla charger but the car came with a adaptor that works just fine.
Overall I am very pleased. The car is deceptively fast and handles well for a SUV. I hope I say the same 1,2,3 and 4 years from now. Time will tell.
So a Miata is a sports car and a Y is an SUV? IDK, the Y is closer to a Mazda6 hatchback ‘car’ than a Bronco! Congrats on the new car, really happy for you!

Maybe I’ll trade in my Geo Prism 18-wheeler and get one of those!!
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Old 03-22-2021 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
250 - 115 = 135 which comes very close to the 138 miles remaining. It also means you drove the car like casual Sunday drive. Get your money's worth out of the "Performance" and bury your right foot in the potentiometer a little more. A few front row traffic lights next to an AMG, Porsche or M Series will encourage you to increase battery consumption.
Actually part of that drive was a demo with my son and him driving. We fully explored the acceleration envelope at least 10 times. I suspect my good results were mostly the low average speed. Had the entire drive been at 79 mph the remaining mileage would probably have been under 100 miles.
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Old 03-22-2021 | 08:50 AM
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So a Miata is a sports car and a Y is an SUV? IDK, the Y is closer to a Mazda6 hatchback ‘car’ than a Bronco! Congrats on the new car, really happy for you!

Maybe I’ll trade in my Geo Prism 18-wheeler and get one of those!!
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Congrats on the car Sailing.. my wife and I just finished test driving a VW ID.4 a few minutes ago and the last one I sat in, obviously needed a software update as the screen sucked! This one worked flawlessly. The range that VW lists is not even close to what you can get. I saw with my own eyes today it was at 81% charge and showed 267 miles left. Handled very well. Weak spots were, no frunk and the interior, although nice, didn’t seem luxurious. VW did an excellent job overall and with 3 years free charging at EA not a bad deal.

Enjoy that model Y!
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