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Old 03-22-2021, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 53x11 View Post
Congrats on the car Sailing.. my wife and I just finished test driving a VW ID.4 a few minutes ago and the last one I sat in, obviously needed a software update as the screen sucked! This one worked flawlessly. The range that VW lists is not even close to what you can get. I saw with my own eyes today it was at 81% charge and showed 267 miles left. Handled very well. Weak spots were, no frunk and the interior, although nice, didn’t seem luxurious. VW did an excellent job overall and with 3 years free charging at EA not a bad deal.

Enjoy that model Y!
The real weak spot is the inconvenient charging network. MHO you can not beat the Tesla supercharger network.
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Old 03-22-2021, 10:16 AM
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The real weak spot is the inconvenient charging network. MHO you can not beat the Tesla supercharger network.

My home charging network would do just fine for us!
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Old 03-22-2021, 10:19 AM
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Old 03-22-2021, 11:41 AM
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Switch to % instead of miles displayed. Trust me.
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Old 03-22-2021, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 53x11 View Post
Congrats on the car Sailing.. my wife and I just finished test driving a VW ID.4 a few minutes ago and the last one I sat in, obviously needed a software update as the screen sucked! This one worked flawlessly. The range that VW lists is not even close to what you can get. I saw with my own eyes today it was at 81% charge and showed 267 miles left. Handled very well. Weak spots were, no frunk and the interior, although nice, didn’t seem luxurious. VW did an excellent job overall and with 3 years free charging at EA not a bad deal.

Enjoy that model Y!
If you showed 267 miles at a 81% charge rate that is actually better than my Model Y. Also keep in mind that Tesla is very good at gaming the EPA mileage rate to produce excellent numbers. Real world mileage on the Tesla tends to take a greater percentage drop from EPA ratings over other brands. I like the ID4 however it does not get the performance of the Tesla and I could not get one in the timeframe I needed. The ID4 also qualifies for the 7500 tax credit which is very nice. At the moment the Tesla does not.
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Old 03-22-2021, 01:20 PM
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If you showed 267 miles at a 81% charge rate that is actually better than my Model Y. Also keep in mind that Tesla is very good at gaming the EPA mileage rate to produce excellent numbers. Real world mileage on the Tesla tends to take a greater percentage drop from EPA ratings over other brands. I like the ID4 however it does not get the performance of the Tesla and I could not get one in the timeframe I needed. The ID4 also qualifies for the 7500 tax credit which is very nice. At the moment the Tesla does not.
The salesman said they’d had it just over two weeks snd he’d been driving mostly in town. He said off the truck and fully charged, it showed 249 mile range. It learns driving habits so the range was based off him driving it in stop and go traffic and not at highway speeds. We were very impressed. The voice controls work well for a lot of stuff but there was a 3-5 second delay after saying “hello I.d.”, before it would respond. Tight steering. Really sharp. We get a $2500 tax credit in Louisiana as well but I screwed up and let my wife drive a Range Rover Velar today too!
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Old 03-22-2021, 02:57 PM
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"Yeah, you know nothing! Drove my (Camry/F150/milqetoastSUVthingy) to a gas car dealership, test drive an EV for all of 5 minutes and the salesman who got a demo last Wednesday says the range display........I mean on the car with software that didn't blank the main screen ... bought a Range Rover Velvet Elvis ... it feels so smooth"
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Originally Posted by JTwift View Post
Switch to % instead of miles displayed. Trust me.

This. Much more accurate.
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Old 03-22-2021, 09:17 PM
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I picked up a Tesla Model Y performance on Saturday. Fit and finish was surprisingly better than I expected. I have looked at Tesla’s for several months and fully expected to have a long list of problems needing to be fixed. A detailed inspection found two very minor issues I probably won’t bother addressing. The car was vastly better in fit and finish than the Ford Mach E I looked at recently but not as good as a recent BMW X5 purchase. Overall I was very happy. Had I not been happy I could have rejected the car and waited for another one.
The ordering and delivery experience were very good. I spent about 30 minutes online ordering car and filling out required documents. Be aware however that Tesla can be a bit deceptive on pricing. The first number they show online includes projected fuel savings. You need to click a box to get the actual vehicle price and they still omit the destination charge and taxes. You get a final price when you complete the order. Pickup was about 5 minutes total signing final paperwork. At a minimum however you need to watch a 3 minute video on basic operation before picking up the car as they offer no instruction. The day I picked up the car they were delivering 42 cars. On a slower day perhaps they may have offered more help. They have however very good online tutorials on every aspect of owning the car. I watched most of them and found the car surprisingly easy to operate.
The driving experience has been fantastic and no issues have showed up. Sunday I charged the car to 250 miles range or about 85% of battery capacity and went for a drive. Drove 115 miles mostly on back roads at speeds between 45 and 55 MPH with about 20 miles of interstate at 79 MPH. I arrived back home showing 138 miles of range left. I did not order the full self drive and doubt I will add it at 10K. The basic autopilot was just fine and performed very well. The BMW advanced driving assistant performs just as well and does offer automatic lane changes. I missed that feature on the Tesla. The Stereo is outstanding on the Tesla. Best factory system I have had in a car. Navigation and other features are also outstanding. Tesla really did a great job with the software integration and once you get the initial settings set to your liking the car is a breeze to drive. The phone as a key system is also outstanding and better than the BMW version. I am charging with a home J1772 non Tesla charger but the car came with a adaptor that works just fine.
Overall I am very pleased. The car is deceptively fast and handles well for a SUV. I hope I say the same 1,2,3 and 4 years from now. Time will tell.
Welcome to the club! The car gets better with time and you’ll look forward to driving it every day.
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Old 03-23-2021, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by JTwift View Post
Switch to % instead of miles displayed. Trust me.
While % is more accurate, I've found range more useful.
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