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#21
In reality, the whole blocking of the middle seats is a joke. It's ok to sit beside each other on 2 seat row but not a 3 seat row? Also, you still have someone siting all around you including in front, behind, and across the aisle..But if passengers fall for that then so be it, and I don't blame Delta for doing it. While I was a non rev recently, passengers were talking about this exact thing and saying it is false advertising promo.
#23
In reality, the whole blocking of the middle seats is a joke. It's ok to sit beside each other on 2 seat row but not a 3 seat row? Also, you still have someone siting all around you including in front, behind, and across the aisle..But if passengers fall for that then so be it, and I don't blame Delta for doing it. While I was a non rev recently, passengers were talking about this exact thing and saying it is false advertising promo.
When things recover I’m sure we will lose some of those customers when they are packed into coach seats again, but psychologically speaking, some of those will be new Delta loyal customers that we didn’t have prior to WWC... World War Covid.
That’s the truth peeps.
#24
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Honestly I think they just like the separation in and of itself, not because of COVID.
Flying is miserable when you’re crammed in there with every seat taken. Boarding, the flight, and deplaning are just so much more enjoyable (and faster and plenty of room for bags) that people are probably paying for that aspect under the guise of being happy about the COVID safety theater. Not having to sit next to someone more than makes up for the diminished cabin service and mask wearing (at least to me).
I’d be down for perpetual middle seat blocking if only it didn’t affect our profit sharing checks.
Flying is miserable when you’re crammed in there with every seat taken. Boarding, the flight, and deplaning are just so much more enjoyable (and faster and plenty of room for bags) that people are probably paying for that aspect under the guise of being happy about the COVID safety theater. Not having to sit next to someone more than makes up for the diminished cabin service and mask wearing (at least to me).
I’d be down for perpetual middle seat blocking if only it didn’t affect our profit sharing checks.
#25
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He thinks it’s because of more space - no middle seat and half delta one. They love it. He said once the cap goes away we’d probably slide back to 28% share.
He said Premiums are 10-12%, 10-20 would be nice!
#26
I have a friend in delta IT, who is on a corporate accounts team. It amazing what they can calculate, last week he said pre-covid dal had 28% share of all corporate travel in the US. He said today we are at 40%! Whatever corporate travel takes place in the US now, dal is doing 40% of it. It’s small number is absolute figures, but the big chunk of it is dal.
He thinks it’s because of more space - no middle seat and half delta one. They love it. He said once the cap goes away we’d probably slide back to 28% share.
He said Premiums are 10-12%, 10-20 would be nice!
He thinks it’s because of more space - no middle seat and half delta one. They love it. He said once the cap goes away we’d probably slide back to 28% share.
He said Premiums are 10-12%, 10-20 would be nice!
Too bad Delta can't do that in the long run. Boutique airlines try this every now and then; when push comes to shove, people would rather save $100 bucks on a ticket and put up with the sardine can.
#27
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It will be interesting to watch and if business and international flying returns quickly enough perhaps even possible, at least for Delta. But right now UAL and AA are still burning money at a rapid rate and their last bond sales demanded an 11 and 12% coupon respectively. Both are digging deep financial holes, especially AA. And even when their business and international rebound, both are going to have enormous training churn - esp. AA.
Expecting either of them to compete effectively against the ULCCs for the low end leisure flying is probably asking them to capture a bridge too far.
Expecting either of them to compete effectively against the ULCCs for the low end leisure flying is probably asking them to capture a bridge too far.
Many of them aren't just coming for beach market supersavers anymore. They're after first class, lay flat and soon trans Atlantic, complete with code shares and feed. Mutually assured destruction is the only defense against that because if their initial salvos work, they will only be emboldened to keep growing that strategy endlessly.
#28
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The corporate pax probably love it for those reasons you listed, but many of the corporate customers we have now require their employees to fly Delta when the option is available because of the middle seat blocking and cleaning standards. And those that don't require have made us the preferred carrier.
#29
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Honestly I think they just like the separation in and of itself, not because of COVID.
Flying is miserable when you’re crammed in there with every seat taken. Boarding, the flight, and deplaning are just so much more enjoyable (and faster and plenty of room for bags) that people are probably paying for that aspect under the guise of being happy about the COVID safety theater. Not having to sit next to someone more than makes up for the diminished cabin service and mask wearing (at least to me).
I’d be down for perpetual middle seat blocking if only it didn’t affect our profit sharing checks.
Flying is miserable when you’re crammed in there with every seat taken. Boarding, the flight, and deplaning are just so much more enjoyable (and faster and plenty of room for bags) that people are probably paying for that aspect under the guise of being happy about the COVID safety theater. Not having to sit next to someone more than makes up for the diminished cabin service and mask wearing (at least to me).
I’d be down for perpetual middle seat blocking if only it didn’t affect our profit sharing checks.
Our pax are getting the best experience in the industry. I’ll be curious to see how different our eventual new normal might be from the the pre-covid days. Traveling right now is actually pretty sweet if you take care of your own food and beverages.
#30
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