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Old 02-26-2021, 02:13 PM
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I was awarded a GS today. After accepting award, it still wasn't on my schedule an hour later. I decided to call. Sat on hold for 25 minutes before hanging up because GS showed up on my schedule 1:25 after accepting it. One of GS's offered looked like it already had an OE pilot assigned to it. I passed on that one because it was a 3 day and I didn't want to risk actually having to fly it.
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Old 02-26-2021, 03:18 PM
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Yeah, except now you have someone in there to document and talk to the supervisors on duty versus never-ending phone tag. There is a much greater chance they catch the violation and who is doing it. And in the end, if they still refuse to change it, he's right there to ensure you get paid. How is this a bad thing?
For ALPA to watch and catch contract violations by scheduling would take an army of reps. There is no way Delta management would allow ALPA to view all the reroutes and contract violations given out on a daily basis . Will ALPA have reps in the scheduling office 24 hours a day and in each fleet? If so, I could see it possibly being good for the pilots. When trips need to be covered they will do it any way they can, just like the way it happens now.
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Old 02-26-2021, 03:30 PM
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No thanks. I'd rather have a better life on a constant basis, than perhaps get an occasional bonus payment (weeks or months later) amidst scheduling shortcomings. If ALPA is part of a greater overall operation, that's not a bad thing either.
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Old 02-26-2021, 04:09 PM
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I have had my battles with scheduling in the last year but they were more or less disagreements on pay. I’ve not yet found any situation to be a direct violation of the PWA. Are pilots having real issues with illegal reroutes, on a consistent basis?
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Old 02-26-2021, 04:34 PM
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Having ALPA scheduling giving scheduling a hand.

Meanwhile we are on like month 10 of 76 seat RJ noncompliance.

Here’s a simple solution. E175/CRJ900s come to Delta and Delta flies them.

We all know that won’t happen, but another month goes by with more scope violations and ALPA is gonna put an end to illegal reroutes by having scheduling work hand in hand with ALPA scheduling.

Large RJ non-compliance is more concerning to me than the instant correction of an illegal reroute. Which would eventually be caught by ALPA either way.

Not sure how large RJ compliance doesn’t bother people as much as it does me. Maybe I’m just weird. Month 1 or 2 of it, I get it. We are on something like month 9 of it now, and the company acknowledged the non-compliance last fall???

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Old 02-26-2021, 08:58 PM
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They can probably do more than one thing at a time.
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Old 02-26-2021, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by crzepilot View Post
I have had my battles with scheduling in the last year but they were more or less disagreements on pay. I’ve not yet found any situation to be a direct violation of the PWA. Are pilots having real issues with illegal reroutes, on a consistent basis?
hahahahahahahaha. Yes.
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Originally Posted by crzepilot View Post
I have had my battles with scheduling in the last year but they were more or less disagreements on pay. I’ve not yet found any situation to be a direct violation of the PWA. Are pilots having real issues with illegal reroutes, on a consistent basis?

Yes. Outside of an irop we probably get ~20 emails a day. Irop that number shoots up


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Old 02-27-2021, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by crzepilot View Post
I have had my battles with scheduling in the last year but they were more or less disagreements on pay. I’ve not yet found any situation to be a direct violation of the PWA. Are pilots having real issues with illegal reroutes, on a consistent basis?
I have only had one (that I caught) in my 5 years here, but they rerouted me into an illegal DH that got me in 6 minutes too far beyond the limit per PWA. The only reason I caught it was that after my last working leg I had a 4 minute turn into a DH to a co-terminal that wasn’t where I started. Fishy.

Luckily I had time to dig into the contract and find the reference. I called CT and the guy either didn’t know what he was talking about or tried to lie to me about the legality. In the end I got an extra 5:15 out of it on top of the RR pay because they had to extend the trip another day on paper. I’m sure a knowledgeable ALPA rep would have been able to catch it during creation.
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I strongly disagree with ALPA putting a rep in scheduling to assist. Our MEC Chairman spins it to look good for Delta pilots, but it is not good. I have heard scheduling reps mention this in the past and say scheduling is wasting so much money thru scheduling errors. These errors result in pilots being paid with no flying obligation when they are caught by the pilot. So basically, ALPA is going to help scheduling do their job and take money from pilots. This is not a good trend or road to head down in my opinion. Obviously, we have another mgmt rep as our MEC Chairman now ..
Are you kidding? You’re the type that would probably whine and complain about an illegal reroute if you got one. Now they put someone to help prevent it and that’s a bad thing? If being paid for violations is OK, just raise our rates 25% and remove all the scheduling protections in the contract.

In addition, the addition of Rick Dominguez is exactly to prevent the type of issue that the Compass/RJ scope issue has become. This airline is too complex for the airline to police every single thing that they do or carry out. They didn’t have anyone to say to them, “hey guys this won’t work” until we brought it to them after put into place. Now they can bounce a plan off Rick before hand.
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