Easter Meltdown
06-09-2021 | 03:07 PM
#501
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as they say, flexibility is the key to air power.
06-09-2021 | 03:25 PM
#502
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From: 3+ hour sit in the ATL
It has only happened during the NQAT/UNA/personnel shortage of recent.
I expect more of the same throughout the coming months as the system is FUBAR.
Hopefully we normalize and right the
06-09-2021 | 03:46 PM
#503
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okay, so it happened to you twice and both times you came out ahead in both time and money. WhAt’S tHe PoInT oF bIdDiNg?!??!?
06-09-2021 | 03:53 PM
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I was rerouted literally dozens, perhaps several dozen, of times in 2019 alone. Close to half my rotations. And usually for very little, if any, reroute pay.
My experience is not unique by a long shot. NB sucks lately. Reroute protection is a top-3 contract issue for me honestly.
Flexibility is the key to good sex BTW.
06-09-2021 | 03:55 PM
#505
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It's very legal. According to DALPA and the PWA.
Instead of going to PHX for my 30 hour layover then back; I did an SXM turn and was done.
Yes I got paid properly.
370Esq asked what a "late tag" was, I gave him an example. Not the first time this has happened to me on this fleet. I know of a few others this has happened to as well. Not a singularity.
Instead of going to PHX for my 30 hour layover then back; I did an SXM turn and was done.
Yes I got paid properly.
370Esq asked what a "late tag" was, I gave him an example. Not the first time this has happened to me on this fleet. I know of a few others this has happened to as well. Not a singularity.
06-09-2021 | 04:33 PM
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Yes. Find it very hard to believe any scheduling committee personnel at ALPA would have told him that was legal. The very fact he was paid assignment pay (probably from a dispute filed by the SC) is in direct contradiction of that.
06-09-2021 | 06:11 PM
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And yes, basically they can legally substitute a turn but the exception is pretty narrow. Looks like Drum did not have a turn though if it was one leg to a 30-hour layover. Guess they just treated it like tag-on flying at the end of a regular line holder rotation. Not permitted by the PWA but still dangled out there. The tag-on used to result in IA pay for the tag-on portion. Heard an ugly rumor the Company was starting to pay only the additional time, no premium because they felt the pilot "knowingly and voluntarily" waived his/her/other rights under the PWA and therefore was not entitled to the customary IA pay. As you said, gotta know your PWA well enough to know that something just doesn't seem right.
06-10-2021 | 03:35 AM
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06-10-2021 | 04:36 AM
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The odds of getting rerouted are directly proportional to your proximity to ATL, kind of like its the black hole of reroutes, once you are under its gravitational influence you are basically doomed. 
I have been mostly based in LAX on NB aircraft the last 21 years and rarely get rerouted - probably average less than once a year. I think every reroute except one was flying into ATL.
I agree that we need to look at this closely for section 6, I imagine if your a NB Pilot based in ATL it can be very frustrating.
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I have been mostly based in LAX on NB aircraft the last 21 years and rarely get rerouted - probably average less than once a year. I think every reroute except one was flying into ATL. I agree that we need to look at this closely for section 6, I imagine if your a NB Pilot based in ATL it can be very frustrating.
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