They took a 2 day trip out to PHX and made it a 1 day turn. Totally legit. They can reroute you after sign in and BEFORE you operate your first leg of the original rotation.

You do get paid well for it and it is not a section 23 issue in my case. That only comes in to play during IROP, which we were not under at the time of the re-route.

It's not tag on flying either.


And sailing, if you haven't figured it out yet, I'm a QOL kinda guy. I burned the candle at both ends in my 20+ years of military flying. I'm done with that.

I bid a QOL type schedule. That is why I get really chapped when I get re-routed (which happens often) out of the blue (e.g. no IROP).

Here are the only reasons you can be rerouted prior to your first flight. Your explanation does not match any of the reasons.

A regular pilot may not be rerouted: prior to the airborne departure of the first flight segment of his rotation. Exception: A regular pilot may be rerouted prior to the airborne departure of the first flight segment of his rotation provided: 1) his rotation begins with a roundtrip within a single FDP that has been delayed, 2) the reroute is for another roundtrip within a single FDP that is scheduled to depart no earlier than his original roundtrip, and 3) he is returned to his original rotation following the roundtrip into which he is rerouted.

What you stated: You are sitting in the seat for the first leg of the rotation. Checklists done, just chatting. 20 minutes from push and you get re-routed. Like get up leave the jet you are on to go to another gate and operate a different trip...That should have pushed 10 minutes ago.

Your rotation was not delayed and you were rerouted into a rotation that reported prior to yours. Illegal on both accounts.

Take away my multi day trip and give me a one day turn. And pay me premium? Yes please.

you’d think triple pay and two extra days off would be a boon to QOL

It would be for me!

No these reroutes that pay 300% for 50% of the work must end. I bid layovers for a reason and this abrogates my seniority. I would like to speak with the manager of QOL.

This is so true... What a misfortunate guy. I can't imagine going through life so angry...and I'm by no means a company apologist.

I seem inclined to agree that Drum's posted scenario appears to be a violation of the PWA. If it, in fact, paid triple (original rotation plus 2x value of the substituted turn) that also supports that being violation just as an unpermitted tag-on at the end of a regular line-holder's rotation would be handled. Not usually getting triple pay for a permitted scheduling adjustment when green slips aren't involved.

It’s actually quadruple pay. They also have the identify the pilot who should have done the flying and pay them single pay as well.

I bid for the PHX long overnights.

The re-route obviates my bid.

Simple as that.

Problem is people like you. I can throw money at a problem all day long, doesn't ever fix the systemic causes. We got to see that in summer 2019 now didn't we.