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Old 06-16-2021 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr
I think I know what you’re saying and I saw it too. It’s not practical, but it would be good to have sidebars for those new to the industry and let the others go.

I’d definitely prefer more practical stuff and less cheerleading.

No matter how it changes somebody is going to fuss either about getting shorted or being talked down to. It’s the natural state of pilots I suppose. Guilty.
Uhhhhhh……the name of that two weeks is “Indoctrination.” In this instance a synonym for cheerleading.

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Old 06-16-2021 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane;[url=tel:3250799
3250799[/url]]Uhhhhhh……the name of that two weeks is “Indoctrination.” In this instance a synonym for cheerleading.

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Good point!

But I’m still going to fuss, 🎵 cuz I’m a pilot!! 🎵
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Old 06-16-2021 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr
Good point!

But I’m still going to fuss, 🎵 cuz I’m a pilot!! 🎵
Go for it!!! I certainly do!

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Old 06-16-2021 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr
Prior 121 people would probably do ok with this. Prior military/other, it seems like a mistake. I thought the 2 week indoc was lacking, especially with the lack of any real ground school at IQ.
my regional was 5 days of indoc with a test on day 6. We could definitely get indoc done in under 2 weeks.
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Old 06-16-2021 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
my regional was 5 days of indoc with a test on day 6. We could definitely get indoc done in under 2 weeks.
If it paid 4+ hours a day at regular pay instead of training pay we would complain that it is too short.

all days should pay 5:15 IMO
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Old 06-16-2021 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Falcon20
If it paid 4+ hours a day at regular pay instead of training pay we would complain that it is too short.

all days should pay 5:15 IMO
They're on training pay anyways
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Old 06-16-2021 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Falcon20
If it paid 4+ hours a day at regular pay instead of training pay we would complain that it is too short.

all days should pay 5:15 IMO
New hire training pay as it is set up now needs to go away. 4 hrs/day with a minimum of reserve guarantee for all pilots including new hires would be a great start.

How does United handle training pay?

if I remember right from skywest any ground time paid 2:1 and any sim time paid 1:1. So it was 4 hrs/day for a 8 hour day in ground school and 5hrs/sim event because it was 2:1 for the brief time and 1:1 for the 4 hrs in the sim. Training guarantee was 70 hours a month but many (including me) broke training guarantee. OO also paid new hires different that line pilots like delta does so this only applied to transition/upgrade training.
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Old 06-16-2021 | 03:01 PM
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United pays 3 hours per day for every day (including days off) during new hire training.
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Old 06-16-2021 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by eagleatr
United pays 3 hours per day for every day (including days off) during new hire training.
this would also be an improvement
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Old 06-16-2021 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying;[url=[url
tel:3250933]3250933]my[/url] regional was 5 days of indoc with a test on day 6. We could definitely get indoc done in under 2 weeks.
Cool. But I still would want mor substance and less fluff.

Edit - Actually, I don’t care! Not my sandbox. Shorten it, lengthen it, been there, done that, got the wings.
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