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priorwhat 01-20-2022 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 3356517)
Hmm. I just underblocked on a GS and I'm still getting paid the original rotation guarantee. All rigs still apply.

Did you fly all the scheduled legs? If so you were paid for the entire rotation as published. If they had lopped off a day or lopped off enough legs that adg was lower you would have been paid gs for what you flew and “if reg” single pay for the original guarantee. If you fly as published but get in early you get the whole kit and kaboodle.

GogglesPisano 01-20-2022 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by priorwhat (Post 3356611)
Did you fly all the scheduled legs? If so you were paid for the entire rotation as published. If they had lopped off a day or lopped off enough legs that adg was lower you would have been paid gs for what you flew and “if reg” single pay for the original guarantee. If you fly as published but get in early you get the whole kit and kaboodle.

I didn't know that, but seem to remember the verbiage. We were rerouted into a DH so that lobbed off 1 live leg and it resulted in a shorter duty day and less block. In any event somehow it washed out the same.

The pay is TRP.

tunes 01-20-2022 04:51 PM

if you flew the legs as scheduled it pays the rotation guarantee, even though underflown. for example, last month i flew a Gs originally worth 22:38. We over blocked a few legs and were up to 23:21 mid rotation...but they ended up chopping the penalty lap off at the end of the rotation on a reroute and we finished early...the trip dropped back down to 21:03. So i got 22:38 orig guarantee + 21:03 as flown.

iaflyer 01-22-2022 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 3354330)
Got it. So you guys think 25 days is acceptable. I pay almost $5000 per year in non-tax deductible dues. To me 25 days isn't acceptable. I appreciate the work of the volunteers. Maybe we need to pay people to get more people working on this.

The ALPA guys working on it are being paid. I don't have any insider view, but I bet it takes a lot of training to get each person up to speed on the intricacies of the contract and reroutes, scheduling issues, etc.

tunes 01-22-2022 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 3357883)
The ALPA guys working on it are being paid. I don't have any insider view, but I bet it takes a lot of training to get each person up to speed on the intricacies of the contract and reroutes, scheduling issues, etc.


About 8 months to get up to speed


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Gunfighter 01-23-2022 09:07 AM

Today I get an ARCOS callout for a next day GS with a batch size of 1. I respond that I want the trip, then log into iCrew and see the trip was already covered one minute before the ARCOS call. WTF? Are they queuing phantom ARCOS calls to get around the batch size? i.e. They load up 5 ARCOS calls with a batch size of 1 to notify 5 pilots.

tennisguru 01-23-2022 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 3358378)
Today I get an ARCOS callout for a next day GS with a batch size of 1. I respond that I want the trip, then log into iCrew and see the trip was already covered one minute before the ARCOS call. WTF? Are they queuing phantom ARCOS calls to get around the batch size? i.e. They load up 5 ARCOS calls with a batch size of 1 to notify 5 pilots.

ARCOS will start calling the next batch once the previous batch window closes since there is still a delay for the awarded pilot to accept the trip (I think they also have 15 minutes to confirm). When you saw it covered in icrew was there an * next to the pilots employee number showing they had actually acknowledged the trip?

Gunfighter 01-23-2022 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3358397)
ARCOS will start calling the next batch once the previous batch window closes since there is still a delay for the awarded pilot to accept the trip (I think they also have 15 minutes to confirm). When you saw it covered in icrew was there an * next to the pilots employee number showing they had actually acknowledged the trip?

Thanks for the info. I'm an AROCS novice. Yes, there was an * next to the employee number.


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