I’m loving that so many people here are on the cusp of answering the question “where did the value of worker productivity gains go?”

Do all your friends have their job riding on a medical check up every six months? Do all you friends spend 15 or more nights away from home every month? Did all your friends pay six figures for training beyond a four year degree or spend eight or more years in the military just to get the opportunity to apply for a low paying job that MIGHT lead to this high paying job? Are any of them literally responsible for the lives of hundreds of people EVERY time they go to work? I hang out with mostly doctors and entrepreneurs. They do work longer hours in general. They make more money than me too. So what? They are home every weekend and holiday as well as every night. That is the profession they chose with the benefits and drawbacks that come with it. I know some ditch diggers that work long back breaking hours. Does that mean they should get more pay than me? Than a doctor? I think a fair metric for our pay is how it measures up historically to the same job. Apparently you disagree. Continue the self flagellation.

Stock buy backs? Into mangments pockes via stock options? One time payment adjustments?

Definitely not into the operation; IT enhancements for the employees, better health insurance, proper staffing.

keep going, we’re getting close

https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inf.../1986?amount=1

130,000 x 2.49 = 323,700 Pay is the same for more work and worse schedules then. Still behind the curve IMHO.

And who are you making friends with that you are making so much more than? I guess I have smarter friends, I sit right in the middle of most of my family/friends or even toward the lower end when comparing lifetime adjusted income. Most were making 6 figures right out of college in the 90's and some are starting to think about retirement as we push 50. You'd be surprised at what people are making these days doing a typical government job with a full pension. And they didn't have to sit in the regionals for 10 years making 20K. The contempt you ("you" being the original poster saying how much more they make than their peers) show for pilots is pretty pathetic not to mention your lack of knowledge of how this industry works. I'm guessing you are also over inflating your own situation compared to your peers. News flash, this career is not as good as you think and plenty of people are making way more money than you.

So.... How about them NEOs?

awesome airplane, needs a payrate. (Preferably comparable to the 757)


looks like they will take all 155 by 2027, anyone think that will coincide with parking the 757s?

It would be great to fly them. Unfortunately the company decided to go to mediation so who knows when we will fly them. They can sit parked for all I care until we get the rate for them in our new contract. All this management team seems to care about is $ and stock buy backs.

Edit: we definitely shouldn't LOA a new rate for the NEOs. We need to force the company to actually negotiate with us. All they do is run to the government for help... with how they lobbied for the tax payers help last year to keep people on the payroll. Then turned around and gave people unpaid time off and helped them complete unemployment forms is just disgusting.

The company can operate them without a pay rate…3 B.