Originally Posted by Bert Sampson (Post 3285714)

Looking around at all my friends and noticing that I’m the highest paid with the most time off isn’t devaluing myself. I hustled my butt off to get here but that doesn’t mean I ignore reality.

Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 3286124)

You need to hang with higher income folks. The guys I golf with make more in a month than we do in a year. Most are retired before 50. I sometimes feel like the help. We may be top 5%, but we are the bottom, don’t kid yourself.

Originally Posted by interceptorpilo (Post 3285748)

Do all your friends have their job riding on a medical check up every six months? Do all you friends spend 15 or more nights away from home every month? Did all your friends pay six figures for training beyond a four year degree or spend eight or more years in the military just to get the opportunity to apply for a low paying job that MIGHT lead to this high paying job? Are any of them literally responsible for the lives of hundreds of people EVERY time they go to work? I hang out with mostly doctors and entrepreneurs. They do work longer hours in general. They make more money than me too. So what? They are home every weekend and holiday as well as every night. That is the profession they chose with the benefits and drawbacks that come with it. I know some ditch diggers that work long back breaking hours. Does that mean they should get more pay than me? Than a doctor? I think a fair metric for our pay is how it measures up historically to the same job. Apparently you disagree. Continue the self flagellation.

Originally Posted by Der Meister (Post 3285960)

It would be great to fly them. Unfortunately the company decided to go to mediation so who knows when we will fly them. They can sit parked for all I care until we get the rate for them in our new contract. All this management team seems to care about is $ and stock buy backs.

Edit: we definitely shouldn't LOA a new rate for the NEOs. We need to force the company to actually negotiate with us. All they do is run to the government for help... with how they lobbied for the tax payers help last year to keep people on the payroll. Then turned around and gave people unpaid time off and helped them complete unemployment forms is just disgusting.

Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 3284765)

Did we get rid of a provision that a jet can't turn a wheel until a pay rate is agreed upon?

Originally Posted by Der Meister (Post 3285960)

It would be great to fly them. Unfortunately the company decided to go to mediation so who knows when we will fly them. They can sit parked for all I care until we get the rate for them in our new contract. All this management team seems to care about is $ and stock buy backs.



Edit: we definitely shouldn't LOA a new rate for the NEOs. We need to force the company to actually negotiate with

Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 3286204)

Yes we did...20 years ago. Contract knowledge... it's an enlightening thing.

Originally Posted by GucciBoy (Post 3286067)

The company can operate them without a pay rate…3 B.