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Old 09-23-2021 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
Before we switched to HND hadn’t we dropped all the intra Asia except SIN and MNL?
Most of it but opening HND to international traffic was announced well before that. The big problem we had was the Japanese we’re giving us horrible HND slots. Rumor that better HND slots were contingent on us dropping fifth freedom rights. No idea if true but NRT started dying the day the change at HND was announced.
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Old 09-23-2021 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
Before we switched to HND hadn’t we dropped all the intra Asia except SIN and MNL?
Maybe before WE switched, but not before every other Japanese carrier was there with all the access they needed to do those routes from the preferred airport.
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Old 09-23-2021 | 02:03 PM
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The wings thing….NWA used the design for the original wings that all airmail pilots wore, from all carriers, way back in the day. Col. Brittin, who was a VP of the old Northwest Airways (pre-airmail contract reset) designed the wings for their pilots. He then submitted the design to the Post Office for approval. The Post Office liked the design so much they asked for approval to use them on all airlines that carried the mail, which is what happened.

For those not steeped in remarkably trivial history, back in the day, the Post Office wasn’t just some goofy government job that lost your electric bill. The Post Office was a really big deal as a government agency. For example, pilots used to carry guns, because the Post Office rules were if you carried the mail, you carried a gun.


Just one of those historical tidbits. I don’t think anyone ever gave it more than 2 seconds of thought. The company did actually survey the pilot group, and the majority elected to keep the wings (which were the same for all pilots versus some complicated assortment) and lose the hat. There were a few Neidermeyers that voted to keep the hat, but the vast majority said lose it. The Company followed through, and not only did we lose the hat, kept the wings but gave another jacket option as well.
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Old 09-23-2021 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Poor attempt at humor. Not sure when you were hired, but if you haven't had the pleasure of listening to someone opine about SOPA/SMAC, you will. Same with every time you pass a 747 and someone mutters...can't make money with 747s. Or passing a 787...sure wish we had 787, we even had a sim... I'm not necessarily in disagreement, but it could almost be it's own bingo game.
I’m a relatively new hire (right before Covid UNAcorn) never heard of SOPA/SMAC, just curious what it was
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Old 09-23-2021 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SawF16
Maybe before WE switched, but not before every other Japanese carrier was there with all the access they needed to do those routes from the preferred airport.

Originally Posted by sailingfun
Most of it but opening HND to international traffic was announced well before that. The big problem we had was the Japanese we’re giving us horrible HND slots. Rumor that better HND slots were contingent on us dropping fifth freedom rights. No idea if true but NRT started dying the day the change at HND was announced.
thanks for the insight, relatively new guy and for a lot of the stuff that didn’t happen recently I only know what I can find by reading, but that can leave out context like this.
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Old 09-23-2021 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
I’m a relatively new hire (right before Covid UNAcorn) never heard of SOPA/SMAC, just curious what it was
It was basically the predecessor to “standard text” which was implemented at DL a few years after the merger.
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Old 09-23-2021 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
It was basically the predecessor to “standard text” which was implemented at DL a few years after the merger.
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Old 09-23-2021 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Poor attempt at humor. Not sure when you were hired, but if you haven't had the pleasure of listening to someone opine about SOPA/SMAC, you will. Same with every time you pass a 747 and someone mutters...can't make money with 747s. Or passing a 787...sure wish we had 787, we even had a sim... I'm not necessarily in disagreement, but it could almost be it's own bingo game.
I've turned it into my own personal drinking game. Any time someone pines for 787s, laments the end of the 747, rehashes the rise and fall of the NRT hub, speaks wistfully of SOPA/SMAC or brings up "there's no money in cargo", I finish my drink. I don't often go thirsty.
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Old 09-23-2021 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
So put up…what are the numbers? What is the percentage of trips where a noob doesn’t make his trip for commuting buffoonary or doesn’t finish IQ in time?
Just stop with this asking for actual data to verify fact less statements.
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Old 09-23-2021 | 06:00 PM
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We need a separate training facility in a safe neighborhood like... the Vikings.
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