4% Pay raise
03-21-2022 | 10:37 AM
#111
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03-21-2022 | 10:40 AM
#112
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(I’m mostly joking)
03-21-2022 | 12:35 PM
#113
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I've flown with a few who are already "retired" in the right seat. They are just waiting a few more years before they leave. If you aren't aiming for the first page or two of the wide report, those pilots help you get to the left seat sooner. Thanks for staying #1.
03-21-2022 | 01:06 PM
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It's all about the pay vs QOL... everybody makes their own calculus. Sometimes it is as Captain, sometimes as a FO. I never gave two shats which.
03-21-2022 | 01:17 PM
#115
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Haven’t you ever heard- seniority is everything?! A very senior first officer can easily make more money than a mid seniority captain. Not all of us NEED to be the Captain! How do you identify yourself when people ask what you do? Let me guess…
03-21-2022 | 01:25 PM
#116
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Most of us have already been in command at our regional carriers/military. If you’re making the money you want with a fantastic quality of life, who the heck cares about being a captain again?
03-21-2022 | 01:35 PM
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I could only hope to have my life like that one day.
03-21-2022 | 01:40 PM
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Go ahead and guess. Based on your tone I’d bet you’ll be wrong.
In any case, I never said there’s anything wrong with it. I only stated I don’t understand it.
There’s also something else I don’t understand. If it really doesn’t matter, why are some so sensitive about it?
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03-21-2022 | 02:34 PM
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As for the "never intend to command" phraseology, some absolutely did "intend to command" but once they got to senior FO they realized their pay was very good and QOL was amazing and they didn't want to give that up. Likewise I know some who chase the left seat even for a pay cut and a worse schedule because they "have to be Captain". Now that's something I never understood.
03-21-2022 | 03:07 PM
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Maybe they don't care enough about that extra stripe to take the pay cut or to work more.
As for the "never intend to command" phraseology, some absolutely did "intend to command" but once they got to senior FO they realized their pay was very good and QOL was amazing and they didn't want to give that up. Likewise I know some who chase the left seat even for a pay cut and a worse schedule because they "have to be Captain". Now that's something I never understood.
As for the "never intend to command" phraseology, some absolutely did "intend to command" but once they got to senior FO they realized their pay was very good and QOL was amazing and they didn't want to give that up. Likewise I know some who chase the left seat even for a pay cut and a worse schedule because they "have to be Captain". Now that's something I never understood.
The pay cut to upgrade I think is urban myth but maybe I’m wrong. Im thinking there aren’t many year 7 pay scale FOs earning more then NB Captains.
As a NB FO I really worked the system best I could to make the money (Civilian mid 40’s hire so no mil pension, no tricare and very little saved for retirement up to that point.) After I moved to NB Captain, I worked less and my W2 was $100k more.
Again, there’s no right answer. This is just the perspective from my little corner of the world.
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