GS Calls in 24 hours
04-15-2022 | 06:25 PM
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04-16-2022 | 03:17 AM
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This was pre-ARCOS. It would change as they went through the ladder. ARCOS is different now.
04-16-2022 | 04:10 AM
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Yeah, through several calls and some digging…they stopped the ARCOS process when someone called in about a WS. The scheduler admitted it was an illegal award and they would make a note on the senior pilots time card. ACE report submitted.
Makes you wonder how often this happens each day…unnoticed.
Makes you wonder how often this happens each day…unnoticed.
LOA 20-04 allows them to stop the GS step of coverage all the way into the award window without having to pay a pilot for it. They can only go backward in coverage at that point or NOOP and split the rotation, then begin coverage again for the new created rotations. Obviously I haven’t looked at ARCOS or the TCs, but that sounds perfectly legal under the LOA.
04-16-2022 | 04:57 AM
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LOA 20-04 allows them to stop the GS step of coverage all the way into the award window without having to pay a pilot for it. They can only go backward in coverage at that point or NOOP and split the rotation, then begin coverage again for the new created rotations. Obviously I haven’t looked at ARCOS or the TCs, but that sounds perfectly legal under the LOA.
Wait, what? It absolutely does not and I've gotten paid several times for 23M7 this year alone for the company stopping trip coverage to NOOP and split.
04-16-2022 | 06:40 AM
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You might want to go look at LOA 20-04 section 5.B.2.5 where is states "...current offer and/or award call out may be stopped prior to the end of the 12- minute award window. In such event, no pilot will receive pay nor will there be any recovery obligation"
04-16-2022 | 07:04 AM
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Help me understand this one.
Find a nice trip in open time. Put in for the trip specifically in addition to my blanket GS. Call the company and they say it’s out on GS call at the moment…currently on pilot 2.
Waiting for my call…it gets awarded to a slightly more senior WS? I thought once a trip was on GS that’s it?
Find a nice trip in open time. Put in for the trip specifically in addition to my blanket GS. Call the company and they say it’s out on GS call at the moment…currently on pilot 2.
Waiting for my call…it gets awarded to a slightly more senior WS? I thought once a trip was on GS that’s it?
04-16-2022 | 07:20 AM
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That does not mean that the company can stop and NOOP a trip without owing anyone pay. It does not trump 23M7.
04-16-2022 | 07:34 AM
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NOOP, split into two new rotations, run those two new rotations through coverage and cover them correctly = no M.7 due.
NOOP, split, send a few legs out to reroute, create a new rotation and run it through coverage = M.7 due for original NOOP rotation. (This is very common)
04-16-2022 | 10:48 AM
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How the trips are covered is pretty specific. I don’t think there is even a mechanism where they can run coverages concurrently. The scheduler pulls the coverage run for that trip. If after 30 minutes the trip has not been accepted by a pilot they are required to pull the coverage again. They often fail to do this in the interest of workload. If on the other hand a pilot calls and wants it on a WS I am sure they would pull the coverage again in exactly 30 minutes.
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