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Old 12-16-2025 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by CoefficientX
So basically you do you mentality. Love it. If it’s that’s simple why are you so wrapped around the axle about it?

I’m not going to count the number of replies you’ve made about this but it’s a lot. Why are you so hung up on anyone owning anything?

You come across as very judgmental. Lots of name calling, pigeon holing etc. That really goes against your other posts on other topics where you espouse tolerance, acceptance, non judgmental attitudes etc.

Maybe you need to own that you’re being hypocritical and cherry picking when it comes to that.
I'm not wrapped up on anything. I'm bored, cold, and this is really the only active thread right now.
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Old 12-16-2025 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
how long does one have to be here to know what “standard” is? pm walk arounds is absolutely the consistent normal on every fleet i’ve been on since i got here. what year will my mind be changed?
Yup on my 4th fleet here (MD-88, 7ER, 320 and now 330), the narrowbody fleets about 80-90% of PM would do the walkaround while some “old school” captains would never do the walkaround. I’m about to go back to 320A and YES I will do the walkaround when I’m PM in all conditions haha I’m not scared of the rain, cold or snow. I live in Michigan haha
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Old 12-16-2025 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SideStickMonkey
This is my retirement job.

And we’re back to the you haven’t been here long enough to have an opinion.

This isn’t the Sky God era anymore pal
You can have all the opinions you like. However, the historical facts are not up for debate. I'm not your pal, I'm your captain, like it or not. If you don't like this retirement job, Walmart always needs greeters.
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Old 12-16-2025 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
There was a lot of sarcasm in that post.

Call me what you want, but I’m done with walk arounds.
your FOs dont like you. No matter how you want it to be perceived, it is taken as “I am better than you”……..
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Old 12-16-2025 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DETSports
Yup on my 4th fleet here (MD-88, 7ER, 320 and now 330), the narrowbody fleets about 80-90% of PM would do the walkaround while some “old school” captains would never do the walkaround. I’m about to go back to 320A and YES I will do the walkaround when I’m PM in all conditions haha I’m not scared of the rain, cold or snow. I live in Michigan haha
Ok, over 12yrs ago, on the 88, first flght of the day from PIT-ATL with frozen over snow/ice on ramp due to low of like 20deg F. Portly CA slips on ice by airstairs and cuts his leg (bruises his pride), spends rest of preflight stopping bleeding, taking bandaids out of first aid kit, etc. Were supposed to do a turn after ATL, but on the way to ATL he says he's gonna call out sick/injured.

(We jokingly decide there is no way Delta is going to believe that a 88 CA did the walk around on a sub freezing, icy morning and decide we better say he fell in the terminal).
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Old 12-16-2025 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Hubcapped
your FOs dont like you. No matter how you want it to be perceived, it is taken as “I am better than you”……..
Don’t care. We’re colleagues, not friends. As long as they are professional, no issues.

I waited almost a decade to upgrade after I first could have. I don’t look down on first officers. I was always taught walk around is the first officers job. If the captain does some, then it’s a bonus, not the expectation.

FWIW, the manual has changed. It used to say it was the FO’s job like at every other company.
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Old 12-16-2025 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Don’t care. We’re colleagues, not friends. As long as they are professional, no issues.

I waited almost a decade to upgrade after I first could have. I don’t look down on first officers. I was always taught walk around is the first officers job. If the captain does some, then it’s a bonus, not the expectation.

FWIW, the manual has changed. It used to say it was the FO’s job like at every other company.
Yeah, no one is looking to be your friend. If we were friends, we'd bend over backwards doing the other person's job for them to the point where we might even forget who is you PF that leg. No, I'm sure EVERYONE knows who the captain is when you're flying
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Old 12-16-2025 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by nene
Some of it may be generational/traditional in that more seasoned pilots may have started out and the engineer in which you did every walk around, for years on every leg. Then you finally upgrade to FO and enjoy your quick, simple preflights. It was often said that the FO job on the 727 was one of the easiest in the fleet. Also if you do WB with a relief, many companies use relief lines whereby you are the Relief Pilot every leg and again, back to the walk around.
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Old 12-16-2025 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I waited almost a decade to upgrade
who cares?
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Old 12-16-2025 | 11:53 AM
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There is NOTHING latest or greatest about will he or won't he do the walkaround.
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