You can't please some of these guys. If we had more Asian WB then it would be "not enough Vietnam WB.

Outside of profit sharing, financial results are the owner's (shareholder's) problem. Employee wages are an expense that is subject to inflation just like jet fuel and gate rental.

One hour of pacific = 2 captain hours. One hour of Atlantic is 1 captain hour. Scope is about protecting pilot jobs at Delta Air Lines. Giving away an hour of 4 pilot ops for an hour of 3 pilot ops is a HUGE loss if the agreement is written that way. We need the final language before getting too deep into debating the merits of scope. I'm all for having flexibility in fleet deployment that helps maximize profits as long as it protects Delta Captain jobs in the process.

I could have a lengthy geopolitical debate, but now is not the time or place.

China is in China’s way. A single party/authoritarian system always fails. China is on the way out.

Better tell the new town crier Trip7 that. The rosy world of getting hired at the beginning of the wave and NB A seem to make him think he should run to all the SM sites and decree what a great deal this is. $ can make one do shady things.

Not sure if that was directed at me or not, but to recap, guy expresses concern that a potential lack of hard theatre restrictions might impact the availability of future widebody positions in his Pacific-dominated domicile and your response is mockery and dismissal? “Not enough Vietnam WBs?” Classy.

I wonder who directly was negotiating this opposite our NC?

there is a difference between what you said and the point that we don’t want to give up pacific (or Atlantic or SA) protections. Explaining the staffing implications of shifting from one theatre to another is not to say one isn’t “real WB flying”, but pointing out why it’s not as simple as “a WB job is a WB job”

lets see what the language says before we start getting too excited one way or another.

I bet if you made this statement to an NMB mediator they'd probably disagree.

LOL You must be joking. With each passing day, the possibility of getting a retro check that matches inflation gets farther out the door. You can say 'no' all you want, but a 4 year 20% retro check ain't gonna happen. Brace yourself for either a small first year raise and full retro or a big first year raise and a signing bonus. You are right about the LCP part though. And I can also tell you that if the LCP portion of the contract isn't eye watering, they are gonna lose a bunch of them.

He did come here right on queue pumping this thing like it is the best thing since sliced bread and no one even knows what's in it. Sorry if some of us are hard to please when it comes to protecting our own jobs despite the people on here working against their own best interests.