Contract Expectations
08-07-2022 | 02:48 PM
#551
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Reserve is more lucrative with more time off when rollin' T than a regular line will ever be. Especially now. If you are 65% or higher and bidding a regular line, you're doing it wrong. I'm below that and it works for me because pilots are to proud too bid reserve and too dumb to think strategically about reserve. Thanks y'all. I worked 11 days this summer so far and have normal pay checks. I worked 15 days in May and made 135 hours. These aren't loopholes or ninja antics. This is literally provisions in all our PWA. Work smarter not harder. The group really needs to step up its game.
08-07-2022 | 02:55 PM
#552
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08-07-2022 | 02:56 PM
#553
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Here is some advice for those of you who have never been at delta airlines during a contract negotiation. The company will have their troops float these trial balloons to gauge the sentiment of the pilot group. They monitor these boards…..trust me on that.
Don’t get worked up over rumors. Read what the union puts out and talk to your friends about it. Fly the contract.
Remember one thing….flight attendants have received raises totaling 24% since the last pilot raise.
Don’t get worked up over rumors. Read what the union puts out and talk to your friends about it. Fly the contract.
Remember one thing….flight attendants have received raises totaling 24% since the last pilot raise.
08-07-2022 | 04:14 PM
#554
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45 block, 125 credit, 10 days worked in July, 0 hours sitting reserve. Done flying by the 18th with 0 obligation to the company. It’s the best deal at delta and any tinkering with it negatively would be a hard hard no for me. I’m always confused why anyone who lives local doesn’t bid reserve.
Sarcasm, of course.
A5S
08-07-2022 | 04:47 PM
#555
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08-07-2022 | 06:22 PM
#556
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point of this conversation - people trying to say a GS on res isn’t the same as a reg GS. It is a blatant lie.
Feel free to help yourself all you want but don’t act like it is a noble cause because it isn’t. The lessons to be drawn here are similar to the Tragedy Of The Commons.
08-07-2022 | 06:35 PM
#557
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Negative Ghost Rider. See my earlier post a few back. No "justification" here, just fact-stating. It is CALLED the same thing, and COVERED at the same point in trip coverage. But it functions far differently, to the detriment of the company's flexibility and to the benefit of the pilot group.
Again, as far as I can tell, this is the ONLY place in the entire contract where reserve vs regular is not parsed out separately. The language is decades old, dating back to when reserve GS were extremely rare if not unheard of. The company is likely upset at the large number of PB days out there and all the aftereffects from them.
Again, as far as I can tell, this is the ONLY place in the entire contract where reserve vs regular is not parsed out separately. The language is decades old, dating back to when reserve GS were extremely rare if not unheard of. The company is likely upset at the large number of PB days out there and all the aftereffects from them.
08-07-2022 | 08:05 PM
#558
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It moves a reserve pilot from the future when the company might need the reserve to now when the company definitely needs the reserve. It’s a green slip. It prevents a lineholder from doing a GSWC since it’s higher on the ladder. Reserve does his GS blocking senior lineholder from doing GSWC, then tells said lineholders that reserve GS’s are okay but lineholders’ GS are not.
YES!!!!!! Rationalization….. A common reaction of one who is selfish. Seen in many subcontractors. We have the same problem at FDX. Then we wonder why our profession is stuck in a downward spiral. Our counterparts from generations past would be ashamed.
08-07-2022 | 08:05 PM
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Some categories are extremely different than others on staffing. Check out 73NB and 320B. The Res GS ninjas definitely have a pretty amazing thing going on. If they can drop their PB days pre-month early on blue days, it just gives more “X” days they use to Res GS by the time the day arrives. There are no unused Res Bs ever in any of these categories. It’s a complete whiplash from the VEOP/MOAD/UNA train wreck.
330A and 7ERA are not the same. You won’t understand.
You guys are talking past each other because you live in different worlds.
330A and 7ERA are not the same. You won’t understand.
You guys are talking past each other because you live in different worlds.
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