Hire a financial advisor?
#61
No kidding non-strip-mall estate/tax attorneys who actually know what they are doing, stay up on the changes and can actually execute when you need it are big bucks. This is one area where you get what you pay for.
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This is truth. I have been looking for an 'advisor' as well, but I'll be damned if I am going to pay a percentage of the value of my portfolio each and every year regardless of how they perform. What a racket! They churn your investments and win or lose collect fees. Yeah yeah, I know, that's the way it works.
Some good advice on this thread so far. The thing I would add to new hires is this: Live within your means, pay down your debt and remember that you are 1 event away from either being furloughed or kicked out of that seat you are currently in to a lesser paying one. Oh, and this rate of growth ain't gonna last forever.
Some good advice on this thread so far. The thing I would add to new hires is this: Live within your means, pay down your debt and remember that you are 1 event away from either being furloughed or kicked out of that seat you are currently in to a lesser paying one. Oh, and this rate of growth ain't gonna last forever.
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With the Unified Gift and Estate tax credit at just over $12.9M for 2023 ($25.8M for married couples), estate taxes are currently not a factor for the vast majority of us. However, as we well know, tax laws can and will change. Those who truly can be affected by estate tax laws aren't going to a strip-mall attorney. With that kind of $$, they have already retained a top law firm for their business and those firms offer high net worth clients estate planning as a "courtesy." (Probably a $750/hr "courtesy" but a courtesy nonetheless). 😁
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You might consider going to your state bar's website and see if they have a Trust and Estates section (or something similar). The authors who write columns for their monthly/quarterly/annual newsletter/digest/journal are usually very experienced and well versed in their respective areas and leave their contact info at the end of the article. Many experienced attorneys who specialize in estate planning also have their LLM in tax law. Further, law firms which practice in that area usually advertise in those journals in order to receive referrals among colleagues. It is a decent place to start. Finally, if you get ahold of one of those journals, do NOT start reading unless you are somewhere very comfortable and have no expectstion of operating heavy machinery for several hours. Just sayin'
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I would encourage you to keep looking if you are truly searching for someone who can help you with finances at a professional level.
There are financial planners/advisors/wealth managers who specialize in airline pilots and can likely help with your situation.
Additionally, AUM is one of multiple fee structures in the industry. Others include retainer fee, fixed fees, hourly fees, and commissions. It sounds like you may prefer one of the alternative fee models and they are out there.
Finally, it is important to understand that the term "financial advisor" is not regulated and covers at least three distinct types of financial services: insurance sales, securities brokerage, and investment advice. Financial planning is a special category that falls under RIAs.
You may walk into a "financial advisor" and be getting any one of these financial services (or all three.)
Understanding this concept will help in your search for advice.
There are financial planners/advisors/wealth managers who specialize in airline pilots and can likely help with your situation.
Additionally, AUM is one of multiple fee structures in the industry. Others include retainer fee, fixed fees, hourly fees, and commissions. It sounds like you may prefer one of the alternative fee models and they are out there.
Finally, it is important to understand that the term "financial advisor" is not regulated and covers at least three distinct types of financial services: insurance sales, securities brokerage, and investment advice. Financial planning is a special category that falls under RIAs.
You may walk into a "financial advisor" and be getting any one of these financial services (or all three.)
Understanding this concept will help in your search for advice.
I personally have used the same fee only fiduciary since '07 and am very happy with their services and results. I'm relatively certain, due to my own lack of knowledge on investing/finances, insurance, estate planning, that I could not have achieved the year after year returns that they have. I could be wrong. Someone will tell me i'm wrong shortly. Same with the estate planning and insurance side of life and adulting. They advised me without getting any monetary cut of anything, what their opinion on appropriate insurance setup would be (Short term, LTD, umbrella stuff, extra ALPA packages) for a pilot/doctor household w/kids might look like. They can't directly manage my delta 401k or my wifes 401k, but I send them screen shots of the available investment options within and they tell me where to allocate all the %'s and we tweak every so often. I personally don't mind paying my 1% fee every year for this stuff.
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Genuinely just curious, what do you mean by someone who "specializes in airline pilots"?........ Are you referring to a financial outfit who can advise on the pilot specific insurance/tax end of things too along with the traditional finance side?
I personally have used the same fee only fiduciary since '07 and am very happy with their services and results. I'm relatively certain, due to my own lack of knowledge on investing/finances, insurance, estate planning, that I could not have achieved the year after year returns that they have. I could be wrong. Someone will tell me i'm wrong shortly. Same with the estate planning and insurance side of life and adulting. They advised me without getting any monetary cut of anything, what their opinion on appropriate insurance setup would be (Short term, LTD, umbrella stuff, extra ALPA packages) for a pilot/doctor household w/kids might look like. They can't directly manage my delta 401k or my wifes 401k, but I send them screen shots of the available investment options within and they tell me where to allocate all the %'s and we tweak every so often. I personally don't mind paying my 1% fee every year for this stuff.
I personally have used the same fee only fiduciary since '07 and am very happy with their services and results. I'm relatively certain, due to my own lack of knowledge on investing/finances, insurance, estate planning, that I could not have achieved the year after year returns that they have. I could be wrong. Someone will tell me i'm wrong shortly. Same with the estate planning and insurance side of life and adulting. They advised me without getting any monetary cut of anything, what their opinion on appropriate insurance setup would be (Short term, LTD, umbrella stuff, extra ALPA packages) for a pilot/doctor household w/kids might look like. They can't directly manage my delta 401k or my wifes 401k, but I send them screen shots of the available investment options within and they tell me where to allocate all the %'s and we tweak every so often. I personally don't mind paying my 1% fee every year for this stuff.
I don't think you need to engage airline specific advisors necessarily, but they are worth considering.
It sounds like you have found a great advisor who has done good work for you and genuinely added value to your situation.
One point to emphasize from your post is: it sounds like you have someone who helps you with financial planning AND investment management. Sometimes these are conflated or covered under one fee, but your statements show that your advisor has given you far more service than just investment management.
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Additionally, the CFP designation is specifically designed to address this type need. There are other professionals that can help as well, but this situation is firmly in the CFP swim lane.
Finally, a CPA may be overkill depending on your tax situation. EAs and non-CPA accountants can also help with tax advice.
Good luck with your search.
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Genuinely just curious, what do you mean by someone who "specializes in airline pilots"?........ Are you referring to a financial outfit who can advise on the pilot specific insurance/tax end of things too along with the traditional finance side?
I personally have used the same fee only fiduciary since '07 and am very happy with their services and results. I'm relatively certain, due to my own lack of knowledge on investing/finances, insurance, estate planning, that I could not have achieved the year after year returns that they have. I could be wrong. Someone will tell me i'm wrong shortly. Same with the estate planning and insurance side of life and adulting. They advised me without getting any monetary cut of anything, what their opinion on appropriate insurance setup would be (Short term, LTD, umbrella stuff, extra ALPA packages) for a pilot/doctor household w/kids might look like. They can't directly manage my delta 401k or my wifes 401k, but I send them screen shots of the available investment options within and they tell me where to allocate all the %'s and we tweak every so often. I personally don't mind paying my 1% fee every year for this stuff.
I personally have used the same fee only fiduciary since '07 and am very happy with their services and results. I'm relatively certain, due to my own lack of knowledge on investing/finances, insurance, estate planning, that I could not have achieved the year after year returns that they have. I could be wrong. Someone will tell me i'm wrong shortly. Same with the estate planning and insurance side of life and adulting. They advised me without getting any monetary cut of anything, what their opinion on appropriate insurance setup would be (Short term, LTD, umbrella stuff, extra ALPA packages) for a pilot/doctor household w/kids might look like. They can't directly manage my delta 401k or my wifes 401k, but I send them screen shots of the available investment options within and they tell me where to allocate all the %'s and we tweak every so often. I personally don't mind paying my 1% fee every year for this stuff.
If you’re happy stick with them but just realize that 1% per year compounds negatively. It’s hardly anything at all early on but as you get closer to retirement it has a major effect.
https://www.planmember.com/default.cfm?pageid=304
Over 30 years that tiny 1% fee can destroy 30% of your nest egg vs having picked some “set it and forget it” index or target date funds.
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If you’re happy stick with them but just realize that 1% per year compounds negatively. It’s hardly anything at all early on but as you get closer to retirement it has a major effect.
https://www.planmember.com/default.cfm?pageid=304
Over 30 years that tiny 1% fee can destroy 30% of your nest egg vs having picked some “set it and forget it” index or target date funds.
https://www.planmember.com/default.cfm?pageid=304
Over 30 years that tiny 1% fee can destroy 30% of your nest egg vs having picked some “set it and forget it” index or target date funds.
#70
With the Unified Gift and Estate tax credit at just over $12.9M for 2023 ($25.8M for married couples), estate taxes are currently not a factor for the vast majority of us. However, as we well know, tax laws can and will change. Those who truly can be affected by estate tax laws aren't going to a strip-mall attorney. With that kind of $$, they have already retained a top law firm for their business and those firms offer high net worth clients estate planning as a "courtesy." (Probably a $750/hr "courtesy" but a courtesy nonetheless). 😁
Estate & Tax law are extremely fussy, especially when you get out into the margins. What kills me is I see people setting up LLCs and claiming their kids as employees, and then "I do my own taxes". Legal, yeahhhh, maybe, but when the IRS comes knocking, with their new hire tax inspector and a system that is impossible for most people to even contact a live person, and they don't want at least a store front CPA's name on the return.
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