This is a very interesting question. The advent of regional airlines, wholly owned subsidiaries, fee-for-departure carriers, etc. does create a conundrum that those pilots should definitely be discussing with their respective MECs and leaders.
A little historical perspective would also be helpful; what happened to the regional feeders during the UA or the NW strikes? (I know the structure was nothing like today, just looking for perspective/info)

In the past, there would be a 'snapshot' taken of the DL operation/route structure the day we walked. Anyone who flew (provided a service for DL or flew a DL route not previously flown by their carrier) would be considered to be 'flying struck work'.

Endeavor, even though they are wholly owned, fly their own schedule (determined by DL each month/week/day/hour). I would imagine that, if we were to be released and called for a 'removal of service' (strike), there would be a snapshot taken of the entire DL system. Since the FFD/WO carriers are not on strike and have their flight schedules set, as long as their managements don't add additional routes/frequencies than at the snapshot, they would be allowed to continue with their schedules.

The big question is 'to what purpose?' They fly their flights from the -burg/-ville's to the hubs but the passengers have no flights with which to connect.

For the FFD carriers that earn their money from DL based on flying their schedule, they still must be paid based on their contracts. The WO is the big question. How does Endeavor get compensated; based on flight segment or 'on a budget'?

I would imagine that the Endeavor pilots could continue to fly their schedule during a DL strike as long as it was the schedule that was in place at the time we went on strike. Any additional segments/frequencies would immediately be flagged by DALPA/ALPA National as 'struck work'.

I put my green “contract now” and “ready to strike” bag tag on my kids basketball bag.

Hilarious the amount of attention that thing got today at a tournament. 10x the amount of attention it’d get if I hauled it through the airport on my roller board that looks like it survived a nuclear attack.

"Members of the two largest rail unions—the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen (BLET) and the Transportation Division of the International Association of Sheet Metal, Air, Rail and Transportation Workers (SMART-TD) ... are expected to announce their vote results Nov. 21."

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https://www.railwayage.com/freight/class-i/iam-ratifies-rail-shutdown-still-looms/?RAchannel=news

Somehow I think the vote trend would’ve leaked to Wall Street by now if a holiday strike was pending.

My guess is they’ll approve their contracts.

Guess the world will know by Monday.

"... the nation’s largest rail union, which represents the industry’s conductors, rejected a tentative labor deal with freight railroads, the union announced Monday."

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https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/21/business/railroad-unions-votes/index.html

Times like this that I'm happy I added the HUGE qualifier "guess."

Good for them. I hope they strike, and I hope every single one of their fellow unions honor it. The pendulum away from private sector labor has swung WAY too far one direction, time for some claw back.

I believe Congress is out of session for the rest of the year; the new Congress will be seated in January. The outgoing Congress might be able to have an emergency session to impose a contract on the rail workers (?). With the switch of party control in Congress, I can't imagine why they'd want to do anything except let this land in the lap of the other team.

All in all, it looks like the rail unions couldn't have asked for better timing for maximum leverage.

FNC's Cavuto had a major piece today on a possible railway strike. "Biden to call on Congress to intervene."

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capitalists rejoice as labor exploited

The Socialists are selling out labor too...

Tell us you don’t know what socialism is without telling us you don’t know what socialism is

“Biden, known socialist, sides with rail bosses in labor dispute” is a headline that actually makes sense to a startling proportion of our population

Oh, I'm sorry. Didn't know you couldn't use snarky hyperbole to respond to snarky hyperbole...:D​​​​​​​

Let's see Ocasio throw a temper-tantrum in Congress tomorrow. Oh wait, she's bought and paid for too. The "darling" of the left.

My bad if you were being sarcastic. I’m just a dumb ge-110 abuser that’s picked on a lot of light greys :)

I hate all politicians. Across the board. Shoe clerk weasels lining their own pockets at our expense. All of them

Looks more like the corporatist oligarchs on the Left cheering and supporting the beating down of labor. I thought the D's were the party of the people (I also thought they were anti-war and pro free speech).

Why would you think this?

We don't have any socialists besides Bernie. It is "market based solutions" all the way down otherwise. Well...the military I guess, but everyone converts back once they leave, plus the contractors throw a wrench into the system.

Both parties spend money like they are socialists. They just spend it on the wrong things - mainly war.

Socialism isn't about just spending money, it's about using collective resources for collective benefit. Infrastructure bills would be an example, as would various social welfare programs. I agree that the easiest money flows to the military in some form since no one seriously asks "how are we going to pay for it?" prior to sending weapons or otherwise participating in military action.

Corporate subsidies would not be socialist spending since it aims to benefit a corporation, but the typical capitalist narrative is that by benefiting a corporation you benefit society. A market based solution. Both Democrats and Republicans use this narrative, but Republicans also endorse tax cuts for corporations, while Democrats mainly favor subsidies. Obamacare is an example of the subsidized method and would be considered "neo liberalism." Socialism would just be medicare, or alternatively fully state operated healthcare. Socialism is not centered around making space for a "market" or other corporate involvement. That is why I said military contractors throw a wrench into the concept of the military being socialist. The need to cater to contractors in most government projects is itself counter to socialism.

I'm not trying to make an argument for anything, just trying to explain the concepts without hyperbole. In general, when a market is used as the basis to implement something, or there is a push to make something "affordable" that is not socialism because socialism doesn't revolve around markets, you simply have the function. It's like saying making police or fire fighter calls affordable, it implies a market requirement and is contradictory to socialism.

you’re a clown man. Need to find a hobby outside of APC

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it's ALIVE! IT'S ALIVE! RUN FOR THE HILLS!

this undead thread is just in time for Halloween.

Says the guy/gal who resurrects a year-old dead threadin another airline’s forum?

Must have found a hobby for a few years then got bored again and hasn't found the next hobby.

Are we striking? /s