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Old 10-27-2022, 12:44 PM
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This proves the company doesn't care to negotiate in good faith.

Management probably gave themselves a pat on the back.

I'll continue to work as a true professional but lack motivation to go the extra step.
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Old 10-27-2022, 12:51 PM
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I’m guessing this info was somehow leaked? Isn’t an AIP kept secret until released as a TA to the rank and file?
If the numbers are accurate then the question is who talked?
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Old 10-27-2022, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnnychimpo View Post
So we’ll have FOs flying 350s making less than Endeavor new hires? Neat.
Correct, and Endeavor starts at $100hr @ 75 guarantee, not training pay.
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Old 10-27-2022, 12:56 PM
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I’m really happy for the Endeavor pilots, they’re getting closer to being paid what they’re worth.

Whatever the negotiators are cooking up behind closed doors for the DAL pilot group had better be SUBSTANTIAL. Cause if it ain’t, lolz.
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I think it was leaked for a reason.. to get the attention of the remaining delta pilots who haven’t voted yet to strike.
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Old 10-27-2022, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TSioux55 View Post
It hasn’t been ratified by the membership, and let’s hope it isn’t.

I know…it was a sarcastic response to hockey’s post that AA pilots are agreeing to it before the BOD even reviewed the AIP
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Old 10-27-2022, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Boatbuilder View Post
If the numbers are accurate then the question is who talked?
That is a question. But who cares?
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Old 10-27-2022, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jodaaddy View Post
Our pay rates would have to increase over 30% for our top RJ captain rate to match that of Endeavour.

And Delta doesn’t think you deserve a raise that even matches inflation.
That should be pointed out to mediator. Would be funny if worthless Crj rates from years ago is what saves us.
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Old 10-27-2022, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Boatbuilder View Post
I’m guessing this info was somehow leaked? Isn’t an AIP kept secret until released as a TA to the rank and file?
If the numbers are accurate then the question is who talked?
Not a leak. It was released via official MEC communication.
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Old 10-27-2022, 01:23 PM
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I’ve often believed that the Legacy’s could actually get away with compensating slightly lower than single type carriers or domestic only BECAUSE of the value pilots place on CHOICE.

Almost everyone I talk to that’s has left SWA, an LCC, etc has come here for choice. DAL, UAL, and AMR offer more choice than any other US carrier. The executives may be realizing that. They’re paying the guys that fly the garbage the best now. They’re offering the guys that fly the big, exotic stuff a pittance.

In the process they are getting the pilot unions in AMR and UAL to fall into disarray. We need to be very vigilant to not allow that here.

Interesting times.
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