sailingfun

Trust me, there are kids in my house and kid chaos in my world!

TED74

Admittedly, I don’t know your situation. But grandkids are a different scenario than round one unless their parents aren’t in the picture.

Does your spouse work full time? How many times have you been rerouted in the last 12 months? How many nights away from home do you average on the 330? If you sit reserve, what percentage of your RES days are you working?

interceptorpilo

I would agree given the same number of pilots and same number of trips but QOL items make the airline hire more to execute a given schedule which then does NOT just shuffle the deck chairs. As in someone who is flying every weekend currently might get one weekend off a month with more pilots.

sailingfun

How do you push that through the mediation process when you are already among the least productive pilot groups world wide.

Iceberg

If management wanted, they could simplify the fleets to boost productivity. Recent orders show they aren’t interested in that so I see no reason we should feel differently. Improved vacation allocation and schedule construction is a priority.

TED74

We aren’t responsible for overcoming gross mismanagement.

Bucking Bar

It is a strange truth to be sure.

Outsourcing just adds cost to airline operations. Delta management knows (maybe they conveniently forgot) that the "service provided by" sticker adds 7% to 9% to the total cost of the operation. Somebody is paying the redundant managers, maintenance and costs of the additional certificate. Now that the game of pilot labor arbitrage is over outsourcing is cost +, plus, for no benefit whatsoever. Unit costs at the regionals are through the roof.

Management everywhere is going to keep foot-dragging, reducing the real cost of mainline pilots through inflation, until FORCED by a labor disruption to take action to save the business. We have as labor friendly an administration as we are ever going to have. We need to watch what happens with these railroad unions VERY carefully. Biden's telling them they DO NOT want to take this to Congress. At the same time the last thing the Biden administration needs is a railway strike right now. I do not know how it ends up. I do think we are likely to follow that pattern.

The Railway Labor Act is unjust.

iahflyr

Which is about what I expect Delta’s pay raise will be at the end of this contract in a few years. Basically they have eliminated the B scale at the regionals, which is a good thing.

sailingfun

We have people smart enough to point out the issues to the mediator. It doesn’t move the bar much. We could probably trade better reserve day groupings and recovery for IOE dropped trips to get better across the board QOL changes but we seem to like a very capitalist contract instead of spreading the wealth.

interceptorpilo

This is your same tired argument. We are not less “productive”. Management is due to their fleet/base structure and poorly managed AE/training system.