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Old 10-29-2022 | 05:43 AM
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Whom invited the grammer police?
No one. The Grammar Police, OTOH, yea, they've been here a while.
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Old 10-29-2022 | 07:25 AM
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Old 10-29-2022 | 08:06 AM
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I felt pretty productive this summer flying a widebody across the Atlantic for narrowbody pay.
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Old 10-29-2022 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
I believe he is using some University aviation database and referencing Pilot cost per block hour. With our diverse fleet and all the training/reserves it requires we are inherently unproductive using this metric. But when you divide total revenue/Pilots we get a much different picture. I have been bringing this up with Sailing for years and he just tells me that is not the standard "metric" of Pilot efficiency.

Every time I have figured revenue generated per Pilot we produce more revenue per Pilot than Southwest - the Holy grail of Pilot efficiency. I have not done it since Covid so can not say what it currently is but Sailing says that is not a valid metric. I think it is the most valid metric and say why let management define what is and what is not a valid metric? What is more directly related to profits - block hours or revenue? Is Delta in business to produce block hours or profits?

Our management loves to claim credit for their financial acumen putting the right aircraft in the right market to maximize revenue - and they deserve credit for this. But on the flip-side the exact thing that allows them to do this (multiple fleets) affects our productivity as measured by cost per block hour. I have heard that multiple fleets are factored into the cost, but details matter and I am sure those numbers can be adjusted up or down depending on how you weight different variables.

Bottom line - Delta Pilots are far more productive if you look at revenue generated per Pilot than looking at Pilot cost per block hour.

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Scoop, you’re hitting the nail on the head.

We make the most money per pilot, therefor it make sense that we should also cost the most per pilot. How many hours in the air to make the most money per pilot is irrelevant.

If we’re generating $3,000 per pilot in revenue per and our costs were $1,000 per hour. Or generating $1,000 per pilot hour in revenue and costing $333 per hour. Which do you think the company would prefer?

*completely made up numbers for argument’s sake.
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Old 10-29-2022 | 09:29 AM
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Do you see anything in there showing our costs being the highest in the industry? We are under AA and United and right in line with SWA.
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Old 10-29-2022 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
Do you see anything in there showing our costs being the highest in the industry? We are under AA and United and right in line with SWA.
But but sailing said....
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Old 10-29-2022 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Planetrain
Jumpseater to ERJ crew: “So, you got your stuff in at Delta?”
Pilots: ”I can’t leave endeavor because of the pay cut.”

Funny how this rings differently now.
I’m waiting for the “Currently at Delta, but have job offers at Mesa and Endeavor; which one?” thread.
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Old 10-29-2022 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
I’m waiting for the “Currently at Delta, but have job offers at Mesa and Endeavor; which one?” thread.
At least at Mesa you can fly a 737 eventually.
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Old 10-29-2022 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
I’m waiting for the “Currently at Delta, but have job offers at Mesa and Endeavor; which one?” thread.
wouldn’t that be funny. If in an awesome act of protest every delta pilot puts in an app at endeavor
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Old 10-29-2022 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Casualinterest
wouldn’t that be funny. If in an awesome act of protest every delta pilot puts in an app at endeavor
goes to the interview, gets the job, no shows new hire class
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