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10-31-2022 | 10:41 AM

#111

sailingfun

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Originally Posted by FangsF15

Do you think being in Bankruptcy "around 2007" has anything to do with that spike in productivity?

It has everything to do with it. The contractual hits were devastating. It shows how far we have come to get back to pre bankruptcy levels.

10-31-2022 | 10:49 AM

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FangsF15

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

It has everything to do with it. The contractual hits were devastating. It shows how far we have come to get back to pre bankruptcy levels.

Exactly, so can you see why folks get cranky when you label us as unproductive, or the "least productive" when you compare our "productivity" to a time of bankruptcy and furloughs?

10-31-2022 | 10:52 AM

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Baradium

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

It has everything to do with it. The contractual hits were devastating. It shows how far we have come to get back to pre bankruptcy levels.

Least productive implies other airlines, not the past here. Please show how our contract makes us least productive. It's not our job to make up for any productivity loss that is company choice, whether it be reserve levels, number of fleets, or training backlogs.

10-31-2022 | 11:05 AM

#114

Mesabah

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Originally Posted by Iceberg

If I recall correctly, 2018-2019 was a pretty profitable timeframe. I would assume the factors that push us lower on block hours also work to push up the revenue. I also wonder how large amounts of hiring factored into utilization rates.

Do you pull your data from the MIT website? I was starting to compare a few air lines but when I saw that American is listed with 32,647 pilots for 2018 I began to question the accuracy. Anyone else notice irregularities?

The MIT data comes from the DOT form 41 data that every airline is required to fill out, there will be lots of inaccuracies.

11-14-2022 | 07:36 PM

#115

4myfamily

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Endeavor AIP is now a TA. Expect it to be ratified by the MEC prior to 12/1.

11-21-2022 | 07:35 AM

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JamesBond

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Originally Posted by 4myfamily

Endeavor AIP is now a TA. Expect it to be ratified by the MEC prior to 12/1.

11-22-2022 | 03:31 AM

#117

Kingairguy200

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TA has been ratified as of 11/18.

11-22-2022 | 05:14 AM

#118

PilotWombat

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I might have missed it in this thread or on the EDV forums, but what was included in this agreement besides pay? Also, what's the retro look like?

11-22-2022 | 05:50 AM

#119

O R C A

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No retro. They were not past the amendable date on their contract.

11-22-2022 | 05:57 AM

#120

Myfingershurt

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Originally Posted by O R C A

No retro. They were not past the amendable date on their contract.

I still think part of the agreement was retro back to Nov 1 though. They’re obviously much better negotiators than we are. They get retro when they’re not even amendable.