Her look I get it. You want to get to work. I've commutted for 5 of my 15 airline years and i might commute again so I understand. I only missed 1 commute in those 5 years. Having said that non-revenue benefits used to be quite a big part of why flying at an airline was so attractive opposed to fedex or corporate.

Over the years that benefit has slowly been eroded to the point it has become really difficult to plan vacations. The positive space commuting policy just erodes that further.

And again if the call in honest policy works and you'll get to work anyway why change it?

 

28 Sections to the contract plus plenty of side LOA's as yet to be closed out and released to the pilot group for a vote, right?

Determining a vote based solely on PSC seems slightly premature.

 

It’s also good relative to say full retro or no, I don’t see that getting flamed. or having a min percentage pay raise. Same.


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I enjoyed positive space commuting but I do have to say non reving has been better already and I got first class for the first time in ages. PS seats should have been last in line to upgrade instead of at the top.

 

Hey look I get it as well. You want to travel the world on the companies dime. I remember sitting first class all the time, I prior to all the upgrade programs. Or having a row with only me in it.

If you really want to plan vacations just buy a ticket. I mean really, you probably are in the top 5% of income in the country and you are depending on open seats to vacation?

Why? We don’t fly the same number of trips from where I commute from? Pre-COVID there was 8 from one airport and 10 from another, both within an hour of my house. Now I have 4 and 6. That’s why change it. Now for a 1 PM departure I could actually sleep in later and drive 4.5 hours then follow the UTC policy. Because of the 2 flight policy I’m trying to make a 5 am followed by a 6. Pre COVID that wasn’t an issue. It was a 9 and 11. Big difference.

Add in the reliability fact of knowing your pilots have a seat should mean less need for SC or last minute GS calls. Once again a benefit to you going on vacation, there was a 745 or so call out for a 755 report. If that’s your trip I bet your not liking the odds of it departing anytime soon. Oh so they cancel the flight. Hmmm now all the paying passengers are bumped to the next flight and you are out of luck all together.


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If PS comes back, upgrade to FC should be same priority as non revs, but not behind them. (if that is what you are saying)

UA automatically gets FC deadhead to/from training, hopefully we can work that into our next contract as well.

 

Gotta be the dumbest post on this sub forum this week. And all of you are sitting here feeding this troll. Get bent.

 

Is it? Or is it honesty that you don’t like? I have a preference and one vote. So do you. Just like tons of people have posted they are not ok with ALPA putting energy into something that will never help them. That’s how I feel on this, what’s wrong with that?


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Good grief.

 

What's funny is that you still have PSC, it's just in a slightly different form. Would you be happy if they kept PSC but added the requirement for a backup flight?

Because that's what we've had for a while.