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NJGov 11-21-2022 08:24 AM
Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3535267)
One I can think of off the top of my head is that if the rigs are too onerous, 30 hour south America layovers will become 12 hour rockets. I know a lot of guys really dig efficient trips but I don't fly international to sit in an airport hotel.

the rigs need to get better for BOS/NYC to LHR/EDI flying.

if I’m going to screw up my body clock with a 4/5 hour time zone change and two nights of getting crappy sleep.. I ought to be getting more than 15:45 for it.

any international trip that crosses more than 3 time zones in a single duty period should have some kind of bonus rig attached to it

JamesBond 11-21-2022 08:27 AM
Originally Posted by NJGov (Post 3535295)
the rigs need to get better for BOS/NYC to LHR/EDI flying.

if I’m going to screw up my body clock with a 4/5 hour time zone change and two nights of getting crappy sleep.. I ought to be getting more than 15:45 for it.

any international trip that crosses more than 3 time zones in a single duty period should have some kind of bonus rig attached to it
That's fine, but like the poster said, be careful what you wish for.

Oh and welcome to international. Where all the layovers are cool and sleep don't matter.

CX500T 11-21-2022 03:43 PM
Hell I have Domestic trips cross that many time zones.

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Jaww 11-21-2022 03:45 PM
Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 3535543)
Hell I have Domestic trips cross that many time zones.

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East and Central. #717life.

CX500T 11-21-2022 03:49 PM
JfK-BDA-ATL-DEN-DH LAX

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Jaww 11-21-2022 03:53 PM
Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 3535552)
JfK-BDA-ATL-DEN-DH LAX

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In one day? BS flag.

CX500T 11-21-2022 04:10 PM
Duty day doesn't count for DH. Welcome to this spring on the 320.

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Jaww 11-21-2022 04:45 PM
Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 3535573)
Duty day doesn't count for DH. Welcome to this spring on the 320.

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Ouch. Good luck, we’re all counting on you.

FL370esq 11-21-2022 06:04 PM
Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 3535573)
Duty day doesn't count for DH. Welcome to this spring on the 320.

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DH at the end does not count for FAR FDP purposes but it does count towards the PWA FDP.

CX500T 11-21-2022 06:11 PM
Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 3535615)
DH at the end does not count for FAR FDP purposes but it does count towards the PWA FDP.
When has the company given a crap about that (PWA FDP) I ACE'd it then fatigued out after my 10:35 rest at LAX that night.

10:35 rest at LAX isn't sufficient after a long ass 4 leg day, middle seat coach DH.

Got zero pushback on that call to the DP.

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