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Old 12-01-2022 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
It would bring a tear of joy to my eye if the rail workers gave the gubment a big, fat middle finger and walked off the job tomorrow or called in sick en masse.
It would be even better if every AFL-CIO affiliated union did the same in solidarity. I'm in.
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Old 12-01-2022 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
Trump still owns you? Seek help.
Sounds like he actually owns you, and a few others here too.
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Old 12-01-2022 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
No it's not. Ted Cruz has voted against union interests more than the average Senate republican. Don't let this singular event goldfish you. He is not a friend of labor.

https://aflcio.org/scorecard/legislators/ted-cruz
Ted Cruz is a dumba** but i'm not going to go off of a "labor score" based on votes that have absolutely nothing to do with labor.

What does the nomination of Pete Buttigieg to Secretary or Transportation and the "voting rights" legislation have to do with supporting labor? It doesn't The AFL-CIO has unfortunately turned into another crazy liberal organization.
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Old 12-01-2022 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
We aren't talking about their everyone else right now. We are talking about Ted. And how even he votes against labor more than the average R.

The average D voted with labor 99% of the time in 2021.
My brother is a BLE member and voted against the TA. His union passed it around 51/49. But they won’t cross picket lines so he was still going to strike. Who gives a ^#%^ if you virtue signaled 99 percent of the time. When the rubber hit the road the D’s sold
out the working man.
Yes I know the Rs are worse so spare me your strawmen. The bolded statement is still true.
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Old 12-01-2022 | 07:13 PM
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I'd really like to read the bill's language. What's the penalty for striking? The confines of the RLA are met and completed. This is a separate issue.
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Old 12-01-2022 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 20Fathoms
My brother is a BLE member and voted against the TA. His union passed it around 51/49. But they won’t cross picket lines so he was still going to strike. Who gives a ^#%^ if you virtue signaled 99 percent of the time. When the rubber hit the road the D’s sold
out the working man.
Yes I know the Rs are worse so spare me your strawmen. The bolded statement is still true.
No one isn't arguing that
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Old 12-01-2022 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
I'd really like to read the bill's language. What's the penalty for striking? The confines of the RLA are met and completed. This is a separate issue.
Up to late digging but here it is. https://www.congress.gov/117/bills/h...hjres100eh.pdf
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Old 12-01-2022 | 07:52 PM
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I often wonder if there is a Rail Workers Central Forum where they go on an on and on about the progress of airline pilot contracts... but I digress.
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Old 12-01-2022 | 07:58 PM
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"The first thing a dictator does is abolish the free press. Next he abolishes the right of labor to go on strike. Strikes have been labor’s weapon of progress in the century of our industrial civilization. Where the strike has been abolished … labor is reduced to a state of medieval peonage, the standard of living lowered, the nation falls to subsistence level."

Franklin D. Roosevelt. President of the United States. Not a fan. Like this quote though. What is the RLA, other than a legal way to eliminate "self help"?

(Plenty more from other actually labor friendly "D" labor presidents OF THE PAST to quote though. Bedtime for bonzo. Wish the rail workers well though.)
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Old 12-02-2022 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
You also have to look at what they are claiming is the scorecard. Voting against a bill that dissolves the need to have an ID to vote isn’t particularly labor-related as are most of the “against labor” votes. AFL-CIO is a hyper-partisan organization. Essentially they said that if a member of congress voted along party lines on just about anything, you were pro-labor as a democrat and against the working man as a republican.
This. I remember many times over the years that one party claims the other is against (insert pet project outrage of the month here). And why they were really railing against was provisions that had nothing to do with what that outrage was about. But it’s all a narrative.

Personally I whole heartedly believe the government should stay the f*%k out of it. It’s way past what the government was designed for by the founding fathers, and the RLA is a big time screw you to workers.

I’m not holding my breath. Most politicians are bought and paid for by big companies. Remember the quote from Aladdin, “Whoever has the gold makes the rules”
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