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12-01-2022 | 07:28 AM

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nene

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Originally Posted by Jester41K

Forgive my ignorance. Does that mean only 11% of a 22% pay increase would be paid as retro?

I read it as an 11% retro/bonus/signing fee on money earned over the last 3yrs. Then 22% pay bump going forward, and 5% raises each subsequent year.

So the way you put it: yes.

12-01-2022 | 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester41K

Forgive my ignorance. Does that mean only 11% of a 22% pay increase would be paid as retro?

Yes. Do people honestly think we're going to get 20%+ retro all the way back to the amenable date?!

12-01-2022 | 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tennisguru

Apparently it's all over the AA forums. They must know because CLT is so close to RDU. And APA is going to send out their TA to our pilots before theirs so it's all good.

Haha. Oh good. Our reps won't leak it to us directly through their various proxies. They leak it to AA pilots for them to spread on their forums. That sounds legitimate.

12-01-2022 | 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TheWagman

11% retro on 3 years

22/5/5/5

Positive space To work only

Dh match's UAL

18% 401k

5:45 ADG

rumors….

Solid NO on that one

12-01-2022 | 07:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by m3113n1a1

Yes. Do people honestly think we're going to get 20%+ retro all the way back to the amenable date?!

Not with that attitude we won’t.

12-01-2022 | 07:34 AM

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Why does anyone take any of these "rumors" seriously?

12-01-2022 | 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CBreezy

Why does anyone take any of these "rumors" seriously?

Because just like the TUMI AIP at UAL, the rumors run amok, plentiful and generally completely off base right before the truth emerges.

12-01-2022 | 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by AirCav

Hard no without free uniforms, optional hot meals on all flights regardless of length and double pay for all weekend, holiday and flying between 11 pm and 5 am. They obviously have not read my must haves or listened to me on the telephone polling.
AC

It’s strange you are the only one they didn’t listen too

12-01-2022 | 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Big E 757

I started this week with measured optimism, but after the snafu with the TA page on the website, I have a feeling the MEC is on hand to read and vote on an AIP today and tomorrow. They’ve been led to believe that a TA is possible and already set up the TA page.

That's not how it works.

The MEC doesn't vote on an AIP.

Each section of the contract is its own AIP. Then the legal language is done which makes all the AIP's into a TA.

The MEC then gets 7 days to review the TA, then vote on whether or not to send to MEMRAT.

The MEC is present in RDU this week to be able to adjust guidance to the NC in near real time based on company counter offers. The NC can't make a an AIP if it doesn't all within the guide rails the MEC gave them.

12-01-2022 | 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF

That's not how it works.

The MEC doesn't vote on an AIP.

Each section of the contract is its own AIP. Then the legal language is done which makes all the AIP's into a TA.

The MEC then goes 7 days to review the TA, then vote on whether or not to send to MEMRAT.

Ok, sorry for my ignorance. I thought the negotiators produced an AIP, and it doesn’t become a TA until the MEC voted in favor of sending it to the membership.