Schedule Poachers!!
12-16-2022 | 05:13 AM
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A pilot can request to have their schedule blocked for cause with the approval of ALPA administration.
12-16-2022 | 06:09 AM
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Thanks to your most professional educational abilities consider me “educated”. I see that it was used inappropriately. My apologies to you and everyone else I offended. Haven’t worked in the civilian world in 30 years, have only heard the stories from squadron mates that have. Thanks for the second warning in the same thread on the same point.
12-16-2022 | 06:09 AM
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And let's be honest about all these ACE reports she "got others paid." It's because she's watching out to see if she can get the pay, and it worked out otherwise. I know it because I've done it!
All that being said, the I agree the harassment piece is unacceptable, but the solution wasn't properly applied in my opinion.
12-16-2022 | 06:10 AM
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IMHO, the company and scheduling share just as much blame here as the pilot who called and requested the trip. The scheduler’s correct response to the pilot should have been “Sorry, I have to follow the PWA coverage ladder. ARCOS will contact you when it’s your turn.”
Instead, the past year has created a culture at scheduling where the PWA can be disregarded as long as the company buys its way out. This is particularly dangerous at a time when so many new schedulers are just starting out. They’re learning that disregarding the coverage ladder and invoking 23.M.7 is acceptable as a routine practice.
The PWA needs to be strengthened to increase the financial penalties for invoking 23.M.7 as well.
Instead, the past year has created a culture at scheduling where the PWA can be disregarded as long as the company buys its way out. This is particularly dangerous at a time when so many new schedulers are just starting out. They’re learning that disregarding the coverage ladder and invoking 23.M.7 is acceptable as a routine practice.
The PWA needs to be strengthened to increase the financial penalties for invoking 23.M.7 as well.
Those that are mad at the person that was able to adjust his/her schedule in the manner described above are 180 out. The ones you should be angry with are the ones that harass or threaten said player.
12-16-2022 | 06:29 AM
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I am truly sorry if have hurt your feeling on the subject, and I do mean that... it was not meant to offend. However like several words in today's lexicon (hero, scab, any number of touchy feely words, etc) they lose their meaning when bandied about without proper purpose of intent. I was not offended, and God forbid any of us should ever have to endure what a strike means. Should that day ever occur, I hope you don't find what that kind of person is.
12-16-2022 | 06:35 AM
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Well, I'd certainly like to know the trick to flat out dropping an entire month when I can't swap or drop with most days in the black. APD and IVD are limited use so I know that's not the answer. Combine these facts with a blocked schedule and color me suspicious.
And let's be honest about all these ACE reports she "got others paid." It's because she's watching out to see if she can get the pay, and it worked out otherwise. I know it because I've done it!
All that being said, the I agree the harassment piece is unacceptable, but the solution wasn't properly applied in my opinion.
And let's be honest about all these ACE reports she "got others paid." It's because she's watching out to see if she can get the pay, and it worked out otherwise. I know it because I've done it!
All that being said, the I agree the harassment piece is unacceptable, but the solution wasn't properly applied in my opinion.
12-16-2022 | 06:39 AM
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Well, I'd certainly like to know the trick to flat out dropping an entire month when I can't swap or drop with most days in the black. APD and IVD are limited use so I know that's not the answer. Combine these facts with a blocked schedule and color me suspicious.
And let's be honest about all these ACE reports she "got others paid." It's because she's watching out to see if she can get the pay, and it worked out otherwise. I know it because I've done it!
All that being said, the I agree the harassment piece is unacceptable, but the solution wasn't properly applied in my opinion.
And let's be honest about all these ACE reports she "got others paid." It's because she's watching out to see if she can get the pay, and it worked out otherwise. I know it because I've done it!
All that being said, the I agree the harassment piece is unacceptable, but the solution wasn't properly applied in my opinion.
This is why I laugh about everyone being upset about the AIP that could greatly improve our qol and staffing issues for the better. “Green slips are going away blah blah blah”.
12-16-2022 | 07:49 AM
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IMHO, the company and scheduling share just as much blame here as the pilot who called and requested the trip. The scheduler’s correct response to the pilot should have been “Sorry, I have to follow the PWA coverage ladder. ARCOS will contact you when it’s your turn.”
Instead, the past year has created a culture at scheduling where the PWA can be disregarded as long as the company buys its way out. This is particularly dangerous at a time when so many new schedulers are just starting out. They’re learning that disregarding the coverage ladder and invoking 23.M.7 is acceptable as a routine practice.
The PWA needs to be strengthened to increase the financial penalties for invoking 23.M.7 as well.
Instead, the past year has created a culture at scheduling where the PWA can be disregarded as long as the company buys its way out. This is particularly dangerous at a time when so many new schedulers are just starting out. They’re learning that disregarding the coverage ladder and invoking 23.M.7 is acceptable as a routine practice.
The PWA needs to be strengthened to increase the financial penalties for invoking 23.M.7 as well.
12-16-2022 | 07:49 AM
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This. It’s worked for me twice. But still ACE it; someone else might get paid too.
12-16-2022 | 08:08 AM
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THIS^^^ is the proper answer. What is the saying... don't hate the player, hate the game?
Those that are mad at the person that was able to adjust his/her schedule in the manner described above are 180 out. The ones you should be angry with are the ones that harass or threaten said player.
Those that are mad at the person that was able to adjust his/her schedule in the manner described above are 180 out. The ones you should be angry with are the ones that harass or threaten said player.
