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Old 02-05-2023 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
Dude,

You make no sense, whatsoever.

Good luck with that.
i love well wishes. Good luck to you too guy!
Old 02-05-2023 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by theUpsideDown
no i just did ur trick where you feed words into my mouth. It isnt the first time ive had to do it.

And to be clear, im talking to you. Not all old guys, not all the web posters. You. You leap to conclusions because you dont like how the conversation is going and try to bring up new conversations as if everything is internconnected in one long web chat. It aint.

Vote no already. Spare me.
I think you have reached your alcohol limit for the evening. Time to put the glass down.
Old 02-06-2023 | 02:47 AM
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Any word on pro-con paper or did I somehow miss it?
Old 02-06-2023 | 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish
Any word on pro-con paper or did I somehow miss it?
Supposedly going to be released very soon. None of the 3 "no" MEC reps wanted to participate in the Con paper (total failure, btw), so both Pro and Con are being written by the "yes" voters. [cue angry "NO!" voters claiming the Con paper is a weak attempt, part of ALPA's continued failures, and is to blame for the TA passing]
Old 02-06-2023 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish
Any word on pro-con paper or did I somehow miss it?
I'm hoping they release it before the vote closes. ........In all seriousness, what a joke. If I was a no voter, I'd hold the 3 no voters accountable, but we all they won't.
Old 02-06-2023 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
Supposedly going to be released very soon. None of the 3 "no" MEC reps wanted to participate in the Con paper (total failure, btw), so both Pro and Con are being written by the "yes" voters. [cue angry "NO!" voters claiming the Con paper is a weak attempt, part of ALPA's continued failures, and is to blame for the TA passing]
Frankly, I think that very cowardice of the 3 no voters. You voted no - own it.

I知 spitballing here, but I知 guessing the no voting reps are reading the tea leaves and recognize that this thing will pass, so why bother?

All 3 were very vocal about their disdain for the AIP, so they should have the stones to write something up.
Old 02-06-2023 | 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Crown
Frankly, I think that very cowardice of the 3 no voters. You voted no - own it.

I知 spitballing here, but I知 guessing the no voting reps are reading the tea leaves and recognize that this thing will pass, so why bother?

All 3 were very vocal about their disdain for the AIP, so they should have the stones to write something up.
It seems their biggest heartburn isn't so much what's in the TA but what was left out. You could write a book on all the things we wanted but didn't get. It's a lot harder to write an objective con paper about the negatives of the things they are in the TA.
Old 02-06-2023 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Crown
Frankly, I think that very cowardice of the 3 no voters. You voted no - own it.

I知 spitballing here, but I知 guessing the no voting reps are reading the tea leaves and recognize that this thing will pass, so why bother?

All 3 were very vocal about their disdain for the AIP, so they should have the stones to write something up.
Harrumph!

Originally Posted by CBreezy
It seems their biggest heartburn isn't so much what's in the TA but what was left out. You could write a book on all the things we wanted but didn't get. It's a lot harder to write an objective con paper about the negatives of the things they are in the TA.
That's certainly true. That "missing items" list could theoretically almost be infinite though. At some point, it just becomes silly, and the legitimate 'misses' get lost in the noise... "We didn't get unlimited drops" or "We didn't get 8 weeks of vacation" or "We didn't get fully funded DPMP for all". Oh, and something about a retirement pillar...
Old 02-06-2023 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
It seems their biggest heartburn isn't so much what's in the TA but what was left out. You could write a book on all the things we wanted but didn't get. It's a lot harder to write an objective con paper about the negatives of the things they are in the TA.
I do think this is the issue. I知 sure it値l read like some of the posters on here, talking about being made whole (I知 not trying to start a debate here so please don稚), stealing PB days (again not trying to debate) and not true retro.
Old 02-06-2023 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Crown
Frankly, I think that very cowardice of the 3 no voters. You voted no - own it.

I知 spitballing here, but I知 guessing the no voting reps are reading the tea leaves and recognize that this thing will pass, so why bother?

All 3 were very vocal about their disdain for the AIP, so they should have the stones to write something up.

Well looking at the cowardice actions of TK from C66 and his latest "explanation"...unless they actually decide to stop acting like a bunch of middle schoolers and write something with substance, nothing is probably better than what their intellect could gin up.

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