Language Errata
01-27-2023 | 10:32 AM
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Language Errata
48 "soak" SS language missing was ferreted out via discussion (great job BTW)
Here's a thread for the others that are out there and discussion on how to handle the vote barring language corrections. Supposedly the NC knows there are others.
Here's a thread for the others that are out there and discussion on how to handle the vote barring language corrections. Supposedly the NC knows there are others.
01-27-2023 | 12:01 PM
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Nice catch. And it happened in less than 60 days - amazing.
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01-27-2023 | 01:32 PM
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wasn't me, viper should get the call
...but took at least how long? The next catch will push that timeline out even further.
crickets from ALPA on this so far and it sounds like they knew about it, and others
...but took at least how long? The next catch will push that timeline out even further.
crickets from ALPA on this so far and it sounds like they knew about it, and others
01-27-2023 | 02:16 PM
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01-27-2023 | 11:43 PM
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And now it’s apparently not there. That’s what I get for being lazy and reading the NN and not the actual language.
Question to Viper: Did the union give you a timeline on the language fix? I’m not voting yes due to a promise on APC (not directed at you). Also does this mess up our retro? How can we have seen the language for 45 days if the language has to change?
01-28-2023 | 02:46 AM
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Great catch indeed! I was actually just having this discussion with a co-pilot and we were going back and forth (he’s a no). I told him one of the reasons I went from undecided to yes was because of the 48 hr SS soak. While not perfect it’s a good limiting principle and one of the most important pieces of language in the whole TA.
And now it’s apparently not there. That’s what I get for being lazy and reading the NN and not the actual language.
Question to Viper: Did the union give you a timeline on the language fix? I’m not voting yes due to a promise on APC (not directed at you). Also does this mess up our retro? How can we have seen the language for 45 days if the language has to change?
And now it’s apparently not there. That’s what I get for being lazy and reading the NN and not the actual language.
Question to Viper: Did the union give you a timeline on the language fix? I’m not voting yes due to a promise on APC (not directed at you). Also does this mess up our retro? How can we have seen the language for 45 days if the language has to change?
01-28-2023 | 06:04 AM
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I’m just getting a chance to read the TA….
My marked up version; 23DD.5.a “Silver slips for beyond second day open time will be processed during each PCS run.”
Doesn’t that produce 48+ hours of “soak”? I couldn’t find definitions for same, next, 2nd day, etc. Logically, beyond 2nd day is 3 days in the future - right?
My marked up version; 23DD.5.a “Silver slips for beyond second day open time will be processed during each PCS run.”
Doesn’t that produce 48+ hours of “soak”? I couldn’t find definitions for same, next, 2nd day, etc. Logically, beyond 2nd day is 3 days in the future - right?
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01-28-2023 | 06:37 AM
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I’m just getting a chance to read the TA….
My marked up version; 23DD.5.a “Silver slips for beyond second day open time will be processed during each PCS run.”
Doesn’t that produce 48+ hours of “soak”? I couldn’t find definitions for same, next, 2nd day, etc. Logically, beyond 2nd day is 3 days in the future - right?
My marked up version; 23DD.5.a “Silver slips for beyond second day open time will be processed during each PCS run.”
Doesn’t that produce 48+ hours of “soak”? I couldn’t find definitions for same, next, 2nd day, etc. Logically, beyond 2nd day is 3 days in the future - right?
01-28-2023 | 07:10 AM
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I’m just getting a chance to read the TA….
My marked up version; 23DD.5.a “Silver slips for beyond second day open time will be processed during each PCS run.”
Doesn’t that produce 48+ hours of “soak”? I couldn’t find definitions for same, next, 2nd day, etc. Logically, beyond 2nd day is 3 days in the future - right?
My marked up version; 23DD.5.a “Silver slips for beyond second day open time will be processed during each PCS run.”
Doesn’t that produce 48+ hours of “soak”? I couldn’t find definitions for same, next, 2nd day, etc. Logically, beyond 2nd day is 3 days in the future - right?
The intent is to liberate people from having to watch open time every day all day without losing opportunities to fly premium pay trips that needn’t be covered immediately.
01-28-2023 | 07:15 AM
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