Language Errata
01-31-2023 | 12:48 PM
#31
Can’t find crew pickup
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01-31-2023 | 02:05 PM
#33
Line Holder
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Here’s one…unless I’m missing it in the language, the ability to bid for your training timeline preference on an AE only applies to the 210- or 335-day windows. The language js missing for the 150-day bids (you know, the new “standard” bid that will make up most of our bids). Waiting for confirmation from my rep.
01-31-2023 | 02:12 PM
#34
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From: 737 A
I assume Delta will find a way to operate at the minimum required block hours. To me partner NB flying is one way for them to get there, and the % of seats allowed Delta on those flights is unacceptable.
I also think the minimum required WB block hours is too low.
Family commitments required me to leave before the scope presentation. I hope they post an online version. I really want to like this agreement, and hopefully something in the presentation convinces me to be a yes.
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01-31-2023 | 02:16 PM
#35
Gets Weekends Off
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I spoke with the ALPA attorney briefly about it. He claimed they didn’t wand Delta NB to cover WB block hours. I thought this was a lazy response. In my opinion it very easily could have been included in global scope as requiring 50% of NB block hours and include language that NB hours cannot meet the WB requirement.
I assume Delta will find a way to operate at the minimum required block hours. To me partner NB flying is one way for them to get there, and the % of seats allowed Delta on those flights is unacceptable.
I also think the minimum required WB block hours is too low.
Family commitments required me to leave before the scope presentation. I hope they post an online version. I really want to like this agreement, and hopefully something in the presentation convinces me to be a yes.
I assume Delta will find a way to operate at the minimum required block hours. To me partner NB flying is one way for them to get there, and the % of seats allowed Delta on those flights is unacceptable.
I also think the minimum required WB block hours is too low.
Family commitments required me to leave before the scope presentation. I hope they post an online version. I really want to like this agreement, and hopefully something in the presentation convinces me to be a yes.
01-31-2023 | 02:24 PM
#36
Gets Weekends Off
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The information I shared is all the information I know. There was no timeline, but I inferred from the message that the PWA that is signed with ink on March 1 will have the changes. These questions are best directed at a DART and/or roadshow. If anybody does find out, please share.
Thanks
01-31-2023 | 02:30 PM
#37
Line Holder
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From: 737 A
I am hoping there is a better explanation than this for the NB hidden somewhere in a presentation.
01-31-2023 | 02:47 PM
#38
Roll’n Thunder
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From: Pilot
Interesting note: according to the union voting email that came out today, if the global scope TA is voted down there “is no requirement for either party to revisit global scope negotiations”…
01-31-2023 | 02:51 PM
#39
Line Holder
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From: 737 A
We already have NB protections built in to the existing section 1 scope. This deal expands our protections for WB flying/growth compared to what we already have. The deal was specifically done in order to protect Delta WB flying. It’s not really meant to adjust the NB flying protections that already exists.
Interesting note: according to the union voting email that came out today, if the global scope TA is voted down there “is no requirement for either party to revisit global scope negotiations”…
Interesting note: according to the union voting email that came out today, if the global scope TA is voted down there “is no requirement for either party to revisit global scope negotiations”…
01-31-2023 | 06:25 PM
#40
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From: Standing by for MOAD downgrade...
I guess I missed that in the NN. Pretty disappointing that it won’t be available for the bast majority of our bids. You’d think once the programming is done, it wouldn’t be any more difficult to include all the bid periods.
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