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BobbyLeeSwagger

03-01-2023 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 3599906)

Do you sincerely hope that?

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RJSAviator76

03-01-2023 08:17 AM

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Congratulations Delta Air Lines!!!

In today's difficult environment and historic pilot shortage, you have managed to cost contain and defeat a pilot group that everyone looked up to. This amazing feat sets the trend for the rest of the airline management teams and will serve as a benchmark for continued success of FordHarrison.

Stay tuned for the increased executive compensation and stock awards. You will not be disappointed, and you certainly won't take any concessions.

To Delta Pilots, congratulations on your new, hard-fought contract that you were willing to strike for. Enjoy these fantastic, non-concessionary gains and thank you for everything you do.

JamesBond

03-01-2023 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Meme In Command (Post 3599938)

I believe what you’re saying is true, but as a Yes voter open to change my mind I didn’t see a No argument that laid out a road map to realistically leverage improvements. That’s where I believe this TA is very different from the old TA 1/ TA 2

So really then, this is more of an indictment of your lack of confidence in the MEC.

CBreezy

03-01-2023 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 3599970)

I'll give you sunsetting of NFLY as a concession even though 90% of Delta pilots are opposed to anything covid related except free time off.

But name one other concession.

Meme In Command

03-01-2023 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3599973)

So really then, this is more of an indictment of your lack of confidence in the MEC.

That's fair, and I've actually never looked at it from that angle. I would agree with this statement if another pilot group managed to leverage noticeably more gains on their contract now that we've set the bar. Let's see what our peers put out.

Mesabah

03-01-2023 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3599973)

So really then, this is more of an indictment of your lack of confidence in the MEC.

The TA would have had to been voted down by a huge margin, otherwise there is massive incentive for management to drag their feet until more junior pilots come off probation.

JamesBond

03-01-2023 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3599975)

I'll give you sunsetting of NFLY as a concession even though 90% of Delta pilots are opposed to anything covid related except free time off.

But name one other concession.

Lack of retro pay.

CBreezy

03-01-2023 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3599989)

Lack of retro pay.

That isn't a concession. And neither is "not getting 25% DC." And neither is "no min balance."

WHACKMASTER

03-01-2023 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 3599893)

Thanks for doing the heavy lifting.
-APA

& SWA as well.

RJSAviator76

03-01-2023 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3599990)

That isn't a concession. And neither is "not getting 25% DC." And neither is "no min balance."

This right here tells me all I need to know. I'm genuinely happy for you. May you continue to reap the fruits of your heroic efforts...

And a hearty congratulations again to Delta Air Lines executives and FordHarrison on another very successful conclusion of contract negotiations.

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