There’s not one pilot of 15,000+ who only got an 18% raise in compensation. Truly - not a single one. If that’s the math you need to perpetuate in order to prop up an argument, it’s rather telling about the merits of that argument.

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18% in pay rates, where's the additional? 8/31/23 maybe or will it be better trips. VAC takes effect next year. Can you quantify a percentage more pay?

Do you have any insight/information as to how the AmEx deal works? If I read that chart correctly form the Investors briefing, we are expecting to make $7B+ in 2024 going forward from AmEx alone. How in the hell does a freaking credit card translate to DAL's bottom line in that kind of number?

And as an aside, it blows my mind that anyone would pay to have a credit card.

Jeez man, sorry our pilot group hasn’t done more for you over the past 22 years. (22 years being the last time I remember a different pilot group doing the heavy lifting for the industry…UAL 2000-2001)

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One more thing, DALPA is no more "supposed" to be in charge of leading the industry in pilot compensation than SWAPA. Nowhere in the RLA does it say that Delta Pilots shall be the standard in pilot contracts. Don't sell yourself short and be that change you want to see.

I can thank myself?

Not one passenger airline has done anything even remotely close to the DAL pilot group’s contract. United and American were downright embarrassing, Alaska thinks management is still coming home from the bar with them and SWAPA is walking out of kool aid events. Please, hang up and try again.

A lot of it is about prestige, ego and middleman transactions. Never underestimate the human ability to perceive oneself as better than X. Or their willingness to pay the society to affirm it. A few years ago it was evident that Delta was out performing all of AMEX's other business by a wide margin. That had a lot to do with business travelers so the timing on the revaluation of Delta as a partner couldn't have been better. They got an increase in the percentage of CC business. As for the nuts and bolts, presales of skymiles and CC usage drives the money in. Most sales now include a hidden percentage for the credit card middlemen. This is why the mom and pop shops give a cash discount or charge a transaction fee for CCs. Multiply that over our customer base and all the purchasing they do with the Delta branded card and the numbers get big quick. At one time the Delta credit card was the most used CC available. I don't know if it still is.