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Originally Posted by Dummi (Post 3600146)

Where can I find that?

in the contract

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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 3599995)

This right here tells me all I need to know. I'm genuinely happy for you. May you continue to reap the fruits of your heroic efforts...

And a hearty congratulations again to Delta Air Lines executives and FordHarrison on another very successful conclusion of contract negotiations.

I would imagine you have your own strike vote to worry about chief. Why don’t the professionals at SWAPA show us surrender monkeys how it’s done. We look forward to your results.

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Originally Posted by Dummi (Post 3600146)

Where can I find that?

screen name checks

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Originally Posted by IPAs (Post 3600027)

This post may help some keep this contract in perspective. As a long term disabled Delta pilot I received one benefit that I am aware of from this contract. An 18% increase in my life insurance policy. Unfortunately, there is a good chance that my estate will collect on this policy.

Wishing you the best. Hopefully, no one has to collect it.

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Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 3599893)

Thanks for doing the heavy lifting.
-APA

rising tide lifts all boats…hoping you guys can piggyback and get a good contract you deserve

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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 3600036)

I would absolutely love to do better.

But when a pilot group that’s supposed to be the industry leader gives away a huge chunk of what they’re owed in retro, and accepts rates that fail to capitalize on the current pilot market, you kinda showed your lack of self worth and in the process hamstrung everyone else.

Just for laughs, take the retro you gave away and multiply it across the pilot group. That number alone makes a fantastic pay day for the executives and FordHarrison.

But really, bless your heart and congratulations.

It's not a good look when you're *****ing at Delta pilots for not being "leaders" when you're indirectly implying your pilot group doesn't have the balls to do their own heavy lifting.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3600144)

I thought it was even worse than a concession. It was a third rail we would never touch. Virtually every poster on here said no contract ever without full retro! I posted here in late 2019 that time was the companies friend and they would let it work it’s wonders and we would never see full retro. That’s exactly what happened. For all of 2020 we got a 4% non compounding bonus that didn’t cover inflation. A entire year that cost the company 150 million. Funny how everyone on here blasted me for saying 1 billion in the first year was reasonable. You screamed 1 billion was woefully inadequate and voted to take a 1 time 150 million payment.
There is another large concession which is a 4 year contract. In TA2 even the union admitted the 4th year was a concession. We now over a certain 7 year period and probably 9 or 10 year period managed only 1 bite of the apple.

Right after that cram down the the Railway Workers got, while Ted Cruz was posing for a selfie with Bernie Sanders and smiling about having appeared more "pro-labor" than Biden, at that moment, I blurted out loud that "contract negotiations are over. Whatever management is at, they just dropped that on the table and walked out of the room."

((did not know the NMB also set the parking brake and called whatever their version of Crew Tracking is))

Glad we got to where we did when the music abruptly stopped.

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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 3600036)

But when a pilot group that’s supposed to be the industry leader gives away a huge chunk of what they’re owed in retro, and accepts rates that fail to capitalize on the current pilot market, you kinda showed your lack of self worth and in the process hamstrung everyone else.

sorry, can't hear you over my stacks of money. Let me know when you get a raise. Then you can talk to me.

Have any of you naysayers even applied any of the new pay treatments to your current rotations???

lol…..get back to us when you do, and tell us you aren’t making a LOT more $$.

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Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3600094)

18% in pay rates, where's the additional? 8/31/23 maybe or will it be better trips. VAC takes effect next year. Can you quantify a percentage more pay?

Nope, can’t give you a number. If you don’t know where any additional extra might come from, you’re ill-informed or being obtuse. No one will make only 18% more compensation for the same number of hours, or at least not a statistically significant number. On the other hand, half the list will almost immediately make 20-25% more as of 1 January.

Sorry to those of you who were campaigning against this thing, and I’m sorry for anyone who is unhappy with the new contract. On the whole, I think it’s a pretty big win and I’m thrilled that Ed couldn’t keep his mouth shut on TV…probably netted us an additional $500M.