That’s not how 23 L.4 note works.

 

This, exactly. To expound on all the great explanations, the 14 hours is from a domicile. So, if the uncovered leg is at an outstation, the trigger starts at the show time of the DH to cover the trip, which in some instances, could be the evening or even afternoon prior to the uncovered leg. Example: 0600 BFE-ATL is uncovered. The only leg that would provide adequate rest is ATL-BFE departing at 1400(show at 1300). You would be due no reroute pay if the leg became open anytime after midnight the day prior.

 

To expound on this further: I think the way this practically works is this BFE leg goes uncovered say 16 hours prior show for the BFE-ATL leg. You are rerouted to cover it at 15 hours prior. The Company would be required to put this in open time from 15-14 hours prior. They don’t do it and just reroute you. In this case you are due reroute pay under 23L4.note.

I am saying this from recent experience and talking to two ALPA volunteers who look at ACE reports.

 

The timer is indexed to the DH leg, not the uncovered leg. Obviously if it's in a hub, they are the same time. But if the leg is at an outstation, the timer starts at the show time of a trip they would have to create in order to cover the leg. In other words, you'll never see a trip in OT with just BFE-ATL. It would have to be DH BFE, BFE-ATL. The timer starts at the beginning of that leg.

 

Can you point me to the PWA reference on the outstation part? I have read that portion of the contract like 10 times and missed it.

 

I can't. It's how it's applied since I've been here.

This is from the SRH which is effectively contractual. "A pilot will receive additional pay for any leg added to a rotation that could have been built into a rotation that would allow a pilot to report after 14 hours and be legal for the leg. If the leg was from a rotation that was run through the steps of trip coverage (outlined in Section 23 N. and O.), no additional pay is due. Deadhead legs qualify for payment if they are outside of 14 hours and are caused by a leg that came from open time. If the DH is to return the pilot to his rotation, no additional pay is due. Once rerouted, subsequent reroutes don’t restart the clock. You are paid reroute pay until you return to your original rotation."

The key words are "built into a rotation and be legal." If it is built into a rotation, it needs to start at a domicile.

 

OK. Do you work for ALPA? I thought in my discussions with two ALPA volunteers that isn’t how it worked and I don’t read the SRH the way you do. Additionally I have been paid for reroutes that don’t fall in your reading of the SRH.

 

I report every reroute to the committee even before ACE. This is based on information from some of the committee structure, not just the volunteers. Here is from one of the experts, HK, in an email from awhile back: "become open soon enough to deadhead another pilot ATL-BFE the evening before with at least 14 hours’ notice, they would have been required to place that in open time prior to rerouting you into flying that leg"

 

OK so still not sure - you work for ALPA? Anyway it sounds like you know a lot more on this than I do. But it doesn’t hurt to call scheduling and ask for the reroute pay even in the above situation. I have been paid for it more than once.

 

As I said above, you should always ACE a reroute. Always.