ACE pays for itself several times over. Furthermore, it’s more than a UI, and speeds up the process significantly from the old ‘system’. The problem lies with the company dramatically increasing its violations, not with ALPA who has ramped up capacity massively, which has only blunted the onslaught of reports (which are FAR easier to file now.

Most of the ‘goodies’ have not been turned on yet (why, I can only guess is due to internal politics), and the new contract allows the data access required to realize its full potential.

 

Specifically what does it do besides provide a UI for report submission and tracking?

 

Current or with the API interface turned on?

Once API is live, it will look at trip coverage, reroutes and other things in real time, flag it for review, with the relevant contract section etc.

Not like now where with "in open time 14 hours" and other gotchas, where it basically has to be noticed by a pilot then reported.

Someone on the scheduling committee correct me if I am wrong, but the way I understood the ACE contract was they get a cut of the unions cut so it is very financially incetivized for them to find every dollar they can. Hence using the API interface to DBMS (they system behind Icrew) to see not only what was covered, but when, and what steps were and were not taken, and to basically auto-find cash once the API is turned on.

As of now, it makes it a lot easier to go "trip xyz was uncovered YY hours from report, trip coverage was not correctly run, pay pilot x:yy pay/credit due to a 23.1.3.x.7.z violation (made up section) and pilot y is due x:yy pay no credit for illegal reroute.

 

I wish it was like that now for pilots, where you get a 10% cut or something if you submit an ACE and the person that gets the pay doesn't submit one.

 

That is supposed to happen within 60 days of DOS. Has anyone heard if they have met yet? The 60 days is about up.

I think turning on the API read-only and dumping that data into ACE has great potential for us as a group.

 

You think you should get 10% of someone else's money because you found it for them? It's not like you did any of the actual work aside from taking 2 minutes to fill out a report hoping you get paid.

 

That's 2 more minutes than the person getting paid spent. If they put in the effort, they deserve it all. If they don't protect their own schedule/our PWA, it's still 90% more than they would have gotten to begin with.

And to add on, ALPA wouldn't have found the violation almost 100% of the time because they are too understaffed to actively look for violations.

 

I think I should get 10% of the next GS that goes out because I took my slip out. You're all welcome. Also, I think I should get 10% when I call in sick inside of 12 hours.

 

Let’s say I call in sick after you removed your slip, do we split the 10% or is it now a cumulative 20%? What if that happens and I also ACE it, 30% total or do get 6.67%?

 

I think the person who least deserves any money is the person who got paid but didn't bother to submit anything. Maybe he should just get an hour of pay.
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