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Old 05-02-2023 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JustNarced
DAL's operation at DFW peaked at 35% of total airport traffic, just a hair under AAL when you consider there were other carriers; by 2004 it was down to 16%. When DFW was big, DAL in ATL was only A and B Concourse, and half of T or E (international moved from T to E). My point, they closed a major mid-country base to toss an MEC Chairman. Ask some of the saltier SLC pilots about DAL threatening to close SLC as well if the LEC didn't get onboard with concessions or the BK itself. The result of these actions and threats? The pilots VOTED YES to terminate their DB plan, that saved the company tens of billions going forward. You need an MEC Chair and a fearful LEC to pull off a stunt like that.
And just like that, stupid anti-union games cost Delta its presence in a city that will soon surpass Chicago to become the 3rd largest metro area in the U.S.
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Old 05-02-2023 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ancman
And just like that, stupid anti-union games cost Delta its presence in a city that will soon surpass Chicago to become the 3rd largest metro area in the U.S.
true on Dallas on the rise to surpassing Chicago. That city has grown rapidly in the past few years and even more so now that everyone is moving inland from the coasts.

why does Delta not want to open up a Texas or Florida base? Seems like a ton of pilots live in those states and lots of business opportunities are there.
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Old 05-03-2023 | 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Fly4FunAA
true on Dallas on the rise to surpassing Chicago. That city has grown rapidly in the past few years and even more so now that everyone is moving inland from the coasts.

why does Delta not want to open up a Texas or Florida base? Seems like a ton of pilots live in those states and lots of business opportunities are there.
We really don't have the critical mass anywhere in TX. AUS would have been great, but AA swooped in and ate our lunch while we watched and did nothing. MCO would definitely work, as would FLL/MIA but the company seems to have no appetite for it. Let's see how the opening of BOS goes this year, if it happens. If successful, perhaps they will take another look at FL.
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Old 05-03-2023 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
We really don't have the critical mass anywhere in TX. AUS would have been great, but AA swooped in and ate our lunch while we watched and did nothing. MCO would definitely work, as would FLL/MIA but the company seems to have no appetite for it. Let's see how the opening of BOS goes this year, if it happens. If successful, perhaps they will take another look at FL.
We will be at nearly 50 daily departures out of DFW/DAL combined this summer. 75% are on 320’s. Austin will have almost 50 departures as well. F9 is opening a pilot base in DFW and they have 2 gates and maybe 15 departures a day…
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Old 05-03-2023 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
We really don't have the critical mass anywhere in TX. AUS would have been great, but AA swooped in and ate our lunch while we watched and did nothing. MCO would definitely work, as would FLL/MIA but the company seems to have no appetite for it. Let's see how the opening of BOS goes this year, if it happens. If successful, perhaps they will take another look at FL.
What AA did in AUS was copy/paste Southwest’s operation and initiated a fare war.

Meanwhile KL and VS have started service. Also this summer we’re increasing frequency on practically every existing route.
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Old 05-03-2023 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaww
FIFY. My best friend’s, second cousin’s roommates uncle told me so.
I heard LATAM is hiring.
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Old 05-03-2023 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ancman
UA opening LAS and MCO has nothing to do with domestic network growth. They have no plans to add additional service to either city. Their level of operations in LAS is comparable to ours, and less than ours in MCO.

There are at least half a dozen cities where we could open pilot bases under our current network, without any network changes whatsoever. The only thing stopping that is our current flight ops management team.
Agreed on the first paragraph and I think the 18 hour LC was a hey we’re not going to open new bases, but you can basically sit reserve anywhere in the country. That, to me, was Delta’s answer to the “we want more bases” crowd.
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Old 05-03-2023 | 06:54 AM
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I heard LATAM is hiring.
My Spanish is lacking. But I must look Latin because most people here start with Spanish. Must be my tan.

*Before a culture war starts, they immediately switch to English when I give my patented, “Soy un gringo.”
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Old 05-03-2023 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Tropical
They are refusing to open new bases as punishment for DALPA killing the virtual base thing a few years ago.
For someone who's been apparently out of the loop on this, WTF is a "virtual base"?
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Old 05-03-2023 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
I doubt it was larger than ATL like the poster claimed, but I think it was bigger than CVG. So the fact they closed DFW but left CVG as a skeleton would give credit to the idea that there were other reasons at play
What's the old saying? Something like "never credit to malice what can more easily be credited to incompetence?" Keeping CVG open as a very small, one-category base made no sense with DTW up the road--it should have closed the same day that MEM was closed. I credit that to "incompetence" and not some E-VILL management plot to increase the number of pro-company LECs.
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