Couldn’t disagree more. Percentage of category means just because you are in a large category you will get many calls for green slips you won’t get. No thanks.

It will triple the size for all trips 8 or more hours. I'd had to know your threshold to consider something bigger than very small.

The net cost of this to the company is far greater than the net cost to the pilot group as a whole. Currently the company is paying 300% of the value of a trip to cover it under 23M7. If batch sizes are adjusted to the extent that they can avoid 23M7, they’ll only be paying 200%.

We have far greater leverage here than many realize. I’m firmly against any changes to the batch sizes unless we receive something substantial in return.

Maybe if they assign known open time two days out they can get that out of the way so they can deal with shorter notice stuff easier as it comes up.

Let’s try the changes agreed to before tossing the limits.

yes an increase from 1-3 is tiny in categories with 600 pilots..that's like having a nickel and tripling it and saying you're rich now. There have been 36,000 ACE reports in the last 3 years and I'd say a vast majority are probably caused by this-that includes the insane amount of reroutes. I guess you all are OK with getting rerouted for crap that could easily be covered with ARCOS if we eased up a little. Just keep the batch limits at night lower, but let them cover stuff during the day. I can't tell you how many 3am wake up calls I get for stuff that's been going through coverage for 12 hours plus. It's ridiculous. If you don't want to be bothered take out your slip or tighten your parameters. I also find it funny that pilots get mad if they get woken up for a GS, but are cool with the crazy amount of IA calls that come through with trips they won't get. The only people OK with this are the ones profiting off 23M7 and the batch sizes which are rare now or those that aren't affected since they're in a small category.

You’re assuming every pilot that should’ve been pay protected was. That is most certainly not the case as it requires a pilot to call scheduling and/or submit an ACE.

Batch sizes are fine. They are in a hurry because all the bonus pay will kick in for the reroutes in SEP.

Scheduling is now regularly covering rotations by IA that are in excess of two hours from report. They have no shame.

That may have been the case in the past, but the issue has garnered enough attention that nearly every IA is receiving scrutiny from ALPA now. Surprisingly, the company self-complies with the 23M7 pay requirement a good percentage of the time as well - before they are ever called on it.

A small number of these may still slip through the cracks, but the bottom line is the company is paying a lot more money using 23M7 than they would be if we gave them batch size concessions.

Do you have numbers to back that up? Because that's not the picture that has been illustrated by members of the scheduling committee that I have spoken with.