There is nothing to agree/disagree with. If multiple people get paid then it favors the pilots. It is black and white. This is costing the company more money and getting pilots more money. It is a company issue not a pilot issue.

 

It totally is wage theft. Funny how they only seem to catch errors in their favor, but even after calling multiple times on things, it's only ever paid out to the pilots when the union gets around to the ACE. (Not blaming ALPA at all btw. People that think it's ALPA's fault for the backlog are a special breed.) And usually seemingly very quickly at that. Maybe Delta can add microloans to their profit profiles as that is what we are all being forced to give them, all while inflation still sucks.

Just imagine if another Fortune 50-100-whatever we are company was found to continuously under pay their employees $10('s?) of millions of dollars in wages a year, got caught doing it, and did nothing to actively address the systemic issue. It would be on the front of every newspaper and Breaking News segment on TV. Thanks RLA!

Weird, they told me it was automatic... 🤣🤣🤣 Good thing I knew better. I had to tell them I am going to read the pairing numbers anyway, just so it's on the tapes for the timeliness of the dispute. Don't care if they send to pay specialist or not, someone is eventually going to get some money.

 

Exact opposite of what I've been told

We had comms on this back in 2018.

File the ACE for this and any reroute. A fellow pilot 9/10 most likely will get paid

This is a company issue not a pilot or union one.

 

I don’t think any DALPA communication has said to “file the ace for any reroute.”

 

That's before I was hired. Could you point me in the direction of where to find this?

 

Scheduling committee members have publicly stated in the FB group that we are encouraged to ACE every reroute to ensure proper pay.

We all pay a lot of money for ALPA’s representation and services. I don’t hesitate to use them as often as possible, especially when the vast majority of my ACE reports result in additional pay for another pilot or myself. The backlog indicates nothing more than the need by DALPA to budget greater funds to the scheduling committee and hire more committee members. This is not a pilot-created problem.

 

He can deny it all he wants, but he's definitely Drum. Same attitude, same negativity, same threats. It's hard to believe the mods allow this. Maybe Internet Brands just likes all the ad revenue the clickthroughs generate from conflict. That's what eventually killed Flightinfo too though.

 

This behavior is PART of the REASON the backlog is so big! If you're happy with that, have at it.

 

Only the company and ALPA have access to enough data in DBMS to ensure that all parties are paid properly in a reroute or 23M7 situation. Our options are either trust that the company pays all involved properly, or file an ACE report and let ALPA verify it.

Like I said, most of my ACE reports have resulted in additional pay going to myself or another pilot. Pilots should be filing more ACE reports whenever they see something fishy, not less.

DALPA absolutely needs to invest more of our sizable dues payments into the scheduling committee. They’re a business and we are their customer.

 

Question, from a potential new hire: Is IA the Delta equivalent of junior manning? Do you have to accept the trip if you answer the phone? Any premium pay associated?