AA AIP (no raise for you!)
05-21-2023, 08:51 AM
#21
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Yes, we get more earlier. Year 1-5 is 21 days. A reassignment window is what happens when your trip gets interrupted for whatever reason like a flight cancellation, and how long scheduling has to reassign you before you’re released with pay. APA’s AIP has that window at 4 hours then you’re done. And can double dip over that trip footprint If desired. Delta’s new deal is 5 hours I believe. Correct me if I’m wrong there though.
05-21-2023, 08:53 AM
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We don't have a "reassignment" window, per se. We have "recovery" which is kinda complicated if your trip is NOOP. We can't be rerouted prior to the airborne on the first leg. If a leg is canceled during your trip, there are some new restriction for reroute but any reroute is now 150% first day and 200% any day after but if you transition your base and are not put back on your trip, you are automatically released and can double dip after.
05-21-2023, 09:09 AM
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We don't have a "reassignment" window, per se. We have "recovery" which is kinda complicated if your trip is NOOP. We can't be rerouted prior to the airborne on the first leg. If a leg is canceled during your trip, there are some new restriction for reroute but any reroute is now 150% first day and 200% any day after but if you transition your base and are not put back on your trip, you are automatically released and can double dip after.
05-21-2023, 09:39 AM
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Trust me, there are a great many who feel the same way….don’t listen to the haters that come to your board and trash talk your airline. If AA struggles, the entire industry’s pilots will all suffer, and most of us know this.
05-21-2023, 09:47 AM
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AA and UA do deserve some credit for our contract. If either of them had tried to improve their weak contract offers and accepted anything in the neighborhood, vs. voting them down quite convincingly, our management might have waited a lot longer to come to the table with a reasonable offer. In my opinion, UA and AA helped us a lot by not only saying no, they said HELL no!
05-21-2023, 09:52 AM
#27
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There may be some things, maybe even many things, in this AA TA that raise the bar. The problem is that other than pay rates we won't have a chance to jump to or exceed any of those new high marks until at least 2027. Pay rates are the one and only thing we here at Delta had a chance at seeing an immediate boost.
05-21-2023, 10:00 AM
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There may be some things, maybe even many things, in this AA TA that raise the bar. The problem is that other than pay rates we won't have a chance to jump to or exceed any of those new high marks until at least 2027. Pay rates are the one and only thing we here at Delta had a chance at seeing an immediate boost.
05-21-2023, 10:13 AM
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Generally speaking, for the non-DAL types, at DAL, recovery is an obligation you might have if something happens to your trip before the first leg takes off. Lots of restrictions. If your whole trip NOOPs, the system is adequately flexible, and you can pick up a trip worth half the value to satisfy the recovery. If your cancelled trip is in the next bid month, a trip in the current or next bid month can be used to satisfy the recovery. You can pull something off the open board.
Re-route is what happens to your trip after the first airborne departure. Key part here is the premium and how it stacks with other reroute premiums and rotation pay like the after midnight cutout, min day, extended duty day pay, etc. The previous system was complicated, but the new system is much easier to figure out what you are owed.
Re-route is what happens to your trip after the first airborne departure. Key part here is the premium and how it stacks with other reroute premiums and rotation pay like the after midnight cutout, min day, extended duty day pay, etc. The previous system was complicated, but the new system is much easier to figure out what you are owed.
05-21-2023, 12:44 PM
#30
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Never said did ALL the heavy lifting. Post my quote here, don’t fill in little extras on your own. APA did do its part this round there’s no question about that. You’re throwing in the ALL the heavy lifting on your own. Hey if this flying thing ever falls through, there’s a job waiting for you at CNN. You don’t even have to leave ATL.
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