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05-23-2023 | 09:27 AM

#51

tennisguru

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Originally Posted by El Peso

Did delta get a 3% raise on the amendable date too, like APA? If not, that’s when you’ll get you snap up (pending United TA obviously).

The snap up provision sunsets at the amendable date, so that 3% does us no good.

05-23-2023 | 12:15 PM

#52

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Originally Posted by El Peso

Did delta get a 3% raise on the amendable date too, like APA? If not, that’s when you’ll get you snap up (pending United TA obviously).

im 99% sure our snap up is base off DOS rates only.

05-23-2023 | 04:00 PM

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How many concessions are in the AA AIP? Deltas announcement had a big bold “NO CONCESSIONS” in the opening paragraphs. Didn’t see that in the AA announcement.

05-23-2023 | 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Viper25

How many concessions are in the AA AIP? Deltas announcement had a big bold “NO CONCESSIONS” in the opening paragraphs. Didn’t see that in the AA announcement.

Don’t have full TA language but zero that I can see so far. Some are making the claim that the order in which reserves get assigned flying changing is a concession. Right now you get assigned flying based on how many hours you’ve flown. The more hours you have for the month, the lower bucket you go into and therefore further down the list from an assignment. The new system will look at days available, and put you into that bucket. Inter-bucket, it’ll go by reverse seniority. The claim is reserves will fly more but I’m not sure about that.

05-23-2023 | 06:25 PM

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This should be official; AA 787/777 CA $417.54

That pay rate looks familiar.

05-23-2023 | 06:29 PM

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I mean, did anyone seriously vote "yes" on the last TA chiefly hoping that AA and UA would bring up hourly wages?

05-23-2023 | 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux

I mean, did anyone seriously vote "yes" on the last TA chiefly hoping that AA and UA would bring up hourly wages?

I agree. I have very little faith in that happening.

05-23-2023 | 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN

This should be official; AA 787/777 CA $417.54

That pay rate looks familiar.

What is Delta’s international over ride? It’s $6.50 and $4.50 at AA. So technically the DOS 787/777 pay is $424.04 unless it’s flying domestic. Technically.

05-23-2023 | 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by El Peso

What is Delta’s international over ride? It’s $6.50 and $4.50 at AA. So technically the DOS 787/777 pay is $424.04 unless it’s flying domestic. Technically.

Doesn't matter because it doesn’t count.