Taking the Plane from the Captain
07-26-2023 | 08:48 AM
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So you called a deviation and the course was corrected? What’s the issue?
07-26-2023 | 08:53 AM
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Between age 67 and 6 month captains flying 767s through hail, it begs the question, has anyone had to take the airplane from the CA?
I had an incident a few days ago where the CA decided to click off the a/t in gusty conditions, vref was around -10 kts at ‘50 feet, resulting in a near tail strike.
thoughts??
I had an incident a few days ago where the CA decided to click off the a/t in gusty conditions, vref was around -10 kts at ‘50 feet, resulting in a near tail strike.
thoughts??
Stop being a dramatic clown. You're at a big boy airline now. Allegedly.
We need to keep reminding everyone he posted this.
Originally Posted by ClownDown
Explain? I poured my heart and soul into this place. I can’t even get an interview OTS despite being a LCP, ex chief pilot, various volunteer roles. think delta is a disgusting place and would rather work anywhere else.
07-26-2023 | 10:59 AM
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CA or FO, it doesn’t matter, I always take the plane from the other person if they click off the A/T. The stronger the gusts the earlier I take the plane. All in the name of safety. It is never safe to click off the A/T’s.
07-26-2023 | 11:41 AM
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07-26-2023 | 12:54 PM
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Between age 67 and 6 month captains flying 767s through hail, it begs the question, has anyone had to take the airplane from the CA?
I had an incident a few days ago where the CA decided to click off the a/t in gusty conditions, vref was around -10 kts at ‘50 feet, resulting in a near tail strike.
thoughts??
I had an incident a few days ago where the CA decided to click off the a/t in gusty conditions, vref was around -10 kts at ‘50 feet, resulting in a near tail strike.
thoughts??
If the CA doesn't respond, take control, but if it's too late that's probably not on you unless you let it go on for an extended period.
If you call a GA and the CA doesn't do, then that's on him, don't fight for the controls unless he's non-responsive. You can always key the mike and say "DAL 1234, Go Around".
07-26-2023 | 02:06 PM
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Was this a serious post? If you can’t safely fly without A/T, maybe you should be a truck driver.
07-26-2023 | 02:13 PM
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07-26-2023 | 03:13 PM
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Decided not to post the story of the one time I had a Captain not listen to a suggestion and resolve it with a "thanks." It is normal to make mistakes and good for the other pilot to catch the error. The response to being caught should always be "thank you."
But the lesson learned is worth sharing. Consider that we sometimes have NO IDEA what is going on with the other pilot.
You must try to have a constructive debrief. If that works as it does 99.999% of the time; good. Then forget about it. If a debrief does not work and if it is a no-**** safety concern then start with Pro_Standards, but also consider talking to a Line Check Airman or Lead.
But the lesson learned is worth sharing. Consider that we sometimes have NO IDEA what is going on with the other pilot.
You must try to have a constructive debrief. If that works as it does 99.999% of the time; good. Then forget about it. If a debrief does not work and if it is a no-**** safety concern then start with Pro_Standards, but also consider talking to a Line Check Airman or Lead.
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