Taking the Plane from the Captain
07-27-2023 | 06:16 AM
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From: Enoch Powell Enthusiast
07-27-2023 | 09:49 AM
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Huh? It’s never safe ? Correct me if I’m wrong but 727, DC9 , early 737 models , all the RJ’s , MD 80/82 , 707 and early 747 did not have A/T. How did they land in gusty winds ? I’m not sure if 1011 or DC 10 had A/T. We had A/T on Avro and never had one problem clicking everything off on a gusty approach and landing .
07-28-2023 | 07:29 PM
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07-29-2023 | 06:04 AM
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Between age 67 and 6 month captains flying 767s through hail, it begs the question, has anyone had to take the airplane from the CA?
I had an incident a few days ago where the CA decided to click off the a/t in gusty conditions, vref was around -10 kts at ‘50 feet, resulting in a near tail strike.
thoughts??
I had an incident a few days ago where the CA decided to click off the a/t in gusty conditions, vref was around -10 kts at ‘50 feet, resulting in a near tail strike.
thoughts??
07-29-2023 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ClownDown;[url=tel:3672856
3672856[/url]]Between age 67 and 6 month captains flying 767s through hail, it begs the question, has anyone had to take the airplane from the CA?
I had an incident a few days ago where the CA decided to click off the a/t in gusty conditions, vref was around -10 kts at ‘50 feet, resulting in a near tail strike.
thoughts??
I had an incident a few days ago where the CA decided to click off the a/t in gusty conditions, vref was around -10 kts at ‘50 feet, resulting in a near tail strike.
thoughts??
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07-29-2023 | 10:57 AM
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Please get out of our industry…….it’s just - not for you 😂
07-29-2023 | 11:00 AM
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From: 767/757 CA
Is this sarcasm? Trolling? If not, this is utter nonsense. Lots of pilots have thousands, or many thousands of landings with no auto throttles/auto thrust installed, (Military, CRJ-200, etc). Can't speak for all fleets here, but at least on the -88, 767-400, and Airbus, 'clicking them off' is encouraged as a proficiency item. Frankly, we ought to be doing it more, such that gusty conditions doesn't turn out potentially bad, but rather just another landing. You know, pilot ****.
+1 to the "Go around" suggestions vs. take the airplane.
+1 to the "Go around" suggestions vs. take the airplane.
07-29-2023 | 11:01 AM
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From: 767/757 CA
Call out performance. If he says "correcting" then let it go until it's time to call for a go around.
If the CA doesn't respond, take control, but if it's too late that's probably not on you unless you let it go on for an extended period.
If you call a GA and the CA doesn't do, then that's on him, don't fight for the controls unless he's non-responsive. You can always key the mike and say "DAL 1234, Go Around".
If the CA doesn't respond, take control, but if it's too late that's probably not on you unless you let it go on for an extended period.
If you call a GA and the CA doesn't do, then that's on him, don't fight for the controls unless he's non-responsive. You can always key the mike and say "DAL 1234, Go Around".
07-29-2023 | 02:36 PM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Always thought the primary pitch control was trim, secondary was thrust and the elevators were for tweaking the result.
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