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CBreezy 10-21-2023 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw (Post 3713302)
Yeah. I saw that one. Your meme was funny.

I wish I could take credit. Was that on the infamous page?

Nick Bradshaw 10-21-2023 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3713307)
I wish I could take credit. Was that on the infamous page?

Yeah, I guess. If you figure out who's running it now, don't tell them they've got a boom e r dude lurking there. Funny page. Enjoy it a lot.

(Dumb that APC won't let me say that word, even about myself. C'mon guys, stop the juvenile cent sore ship). (Oh, guess that word is banned too.)

CBreezy 10-21-2023 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw (Post 3713319)
Yeah, I guess. If you figure out who's running it now, don't tell them they've got a boom e r dude lurking there. Funny page. Enjoy it a lot.

(Dumb that APC won't let me say that word, even about myself. C'mon guys, stop the juvenile cent sore ship). (Oh, guess that word is banned too.)

I don't think anyone cares, at least not most of us, about men or women of certain ages. All I care about is funny satire.

ancman 10-21-2023 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 3713290)
I mean, he is not wrong. He just shouldn’t be saying the quiet part out loud.

He IS wrong. His quote is the equivalent of saying that knowingly committing a felony doesn’t violate the law until a judge or jury finds you guilty.

The act itself has already violated the law. Consequences can’t be applied until a guilty verdict is reached.

Jaww 10-21-2023 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by ancman (Post 3713367)
He IS wrong. His quote is the equivalent of saying that knowingly committing a felony doesn’t violate the law until a judge or jury finds you guilty.

The act itself has already violated the law. Consequences can’t be applied until a guilty verdict is reached.

They aren’t committing a felony. It’s contract law. Even when you buy a car you agree to submit to binding arbitration. You don’t have to like it, I don’t, but there is nothing illegal. They will eventually get a fine or pay a grievance but that’s all part of the game. They are the only ones that lose. All that goodwill down the drain. PB has been a tool since Covid kicked off. Nothing more than a yes man.

ancman 10-21-2023 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 3713368)
They are the only ones that lose. All that goodwill down the drain. PB has been a tool since Covid kicked off. Nothing more than a yes man.

Agreed. He knows he’s violating the contract though. He simply believes that he can get away with it.

JamesBond 10-21-2023 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by ancman (Post 3713367)
He IS wrong. His quote is the equivalent of saying that knowingly committing a felony doesn’t violate the law until a judge or jury finds you guilty.

The act itself has already violated the law. Consequences can’t be applied until a guilty verdict is reached.

No it isn't. Someday you'll learn that the money isn't the most important part to management. Ever wonder why everything else takes so long and the payrates happen seemingly overnight?

ancman 10-21-2023 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3713375)
No it isn't. Someday you'll learn that the money isn't the most important part to management. Ever wonder why everything else takes so long and the payrates happen seemingly overnight?

Sure, but PB realizing that he can violate the contract for a price isn’t the same as PB saying that nothing management can possibly do is a contract violation unless an arbitrator finds otherwise.

They know that certain acts are violations, and they’re willing to pay the small price to keep committing them.

JamesBond 10-21-2023 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by ancman (Post 3713378)
Sure, but PB realizing that he can violate the contract for a price isn’t the same as PB saying that nothing management can possibly do is a contract violation unless an arbitrator finds otherwise.

They know that certain acts are violations, and they’re willing to pay the small price to keep committing them.

Y'all are acting like this is something new. Did you really think this contract 'fixed' anything? It just got your pay codified for transgressions and nothing more (for the most part).

Jaww 10-21-2023 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by ancman (Post 3713378)
Sure, but PB realizing that he can violate the contract for a price isn’t the same as PB saying that nothing management can possibly do is a contract violation unless an arbitrator finds otherwise.

They know that certain acts are violations, and they’re willing to pay the small price to keep committing them.

Bingo. And it’s not illegal for them to allow it to go there. Ethical? That word no longer matters on Wall Street.


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